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Join me and my guest, Dan Kottke, early Apple employee (the only Apple employee who worked on the Apple I, II, III, and the Macintosh), attorney, consultant, and venture capitalist on this week's johnmac Radio Show by clicking www.blogtalkradio.com/johmac13/2016/08/07/weekly-johnmac-radio-show on your browser or calling 646 716-9756 on your phone. This is the 151st episode of the weekly show -- the recordings for the previous 150 shows may be found under the Radio Show tab at my radio home, www.johnmac13.com. The shows to date include conversations with journalists, authors, technologists, academis, law enforcement officials, politicians, labor unionists, and clergy -- in short, interesting people.