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On this podcast, Michael "MGW" Miano hosts a pre-recorded podcast interview with author Mike Bull. Following a podcast done a view weeks ago on MGW Radio, author Mike Bull responds and expains his chiastic/pattern/fractal concept and how that applies to understanding a yet future application of the "last days". At the conclusion of the link, and on the previously done podcast, 1/15/2019, Pastor Miano explains the problem with such an approach.