Walking Into the Fire

GUEST: Janet Renu Pullen

The 13th century massacre of the Cathars was ordered by the Church and was carried out by a crusader army sent by Rome against these peaceful Gnostics and their Catholic supporters.

This history is well known, but what is not is not commonly known is some of these “heretics” as the Church calls them chose to meet to their death.  

For spiritual thinkers, willing to find the truth no matter where it leads them, there is a survival truth in this historical carnage, that has direct implications for our future and how we survive it.  

In this interview, Janet Renu Pullen, author of In Secret and Shadows: Discovering Light in the South of France shares a boots on the ground understanding of this history, which could result in the fall of the Church, as predicted by Saint Malachy and Nostradamus.