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An interview with Mark Halvorsen from WWIB Radio, 103.7 FM, Eau Claire, WI. Listen to an interview on the need to pay attention to 40 year cycles of time versus just cycles of 24 hour days. Looking closely we examine many of the similar needs of freedom being expressed between 1971 and 2011. The Five Man Electrical Band's song called Signs leads off the interview as an expression of the 1971 era that broke down many walls. The 40 year cycle is the reason why many of us grow up to be just like our parents, even though that was not our intent.