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When Sharon Weil talks with renowned structural bodyworker, Harvey Ruderian, they travel far. As a long time practitioner and instructor, (Aston Patterning, Rolfing, Bio-Dynamic Cranial Sacral Therapy, Visceral manipulation) Harvey’s understanding of the physical body’s presentation of illness and injury leads him to listen more deeply to the underlying story. He listens with his hands for the subtle movements that can be encouraged to open, and when he does, he and his client experience waves of consciousness unfolding and re-shaping into greater health. Harvey and Sharon’s fascinating conversation about the relationship of body and consciousness opens up new ways of perceiving what a body may truly be.