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This week's show is a re-broadcast from July 18, with host Mark McNease and guests Judy Rickard and Karin Bogliolo. Judy is the author of 'Torn Apart: United by Love, Divided by Law' (Findhorn Press) and an activist with Karin on behalf of binational same-sex couples.??Rick was travelling that week, as he is this week, necessitating an unexpected change in scheduling. Enjoy this podcast as I talk to Judy and Karin about their struggles against the hardships imposed by The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) and their experiences in the movement for equality. Judy is also a regular contributor to lgbtSr, where you can read her regular travel column, 'Two Broads Abroad on the Oregon Trail' (soon to be including some other destinations as well).