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Author Jack Whitsel joins me to chat about his his debut dark fantasy epic, SHADOWS OF KINGS . Jack has written blog articles about fantasy including a joined effort with JRR Tolkien's great, great niece Robin Lovejoy Tolkien about violence in contemporary fantas. His novel and the series looks to be right down my reading ally and I can't wait to chat to hiim. Shadows of Kings, the first novel of the Dragon Rising Series