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with special guest Militia Bob, he was in the Army from 1970-1983 served in Army Security Agency from 1970-1977 than turned to Intelligence Security Command in 1977-1983, spent 3 1/2 years stationed at Ft Meade Maryland at NSA. Spent the last 21 involved in the patriot/survival/militia movement. One of the founders of the Utah Unorganized Constitutional Militia. Involved in Pro-gun ralles, anti-UN rallies, anti-patriot act rally. Speaker at pro gun rally at the steps of the Utah Captial in April of 2000 and April of 2014. on a host of issues tune in call in wake up