Jason Hartman talks with Kevin Ring, Director of Strategic Initiatives for Families Against Mandatory Minimums, former lobbyist and associate to Jack Abramoff.
[2:48] Hear about the kind of money a lobbyist can make
[11:23] The amount of money he spent as a lobbyist that got him sent to prison on bribery charges.
[15:03] The United States incarceration rate and the government’s ability to find a crime you committed
[22:21] How much money Kevin had to spend, while cooperating with the government, to defend himself in court
[27:17] The dangers of privatized prisons
[32:40] What people can do to change the system
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