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Join me, Rob McQuay, and my cohorts Geoff Cowles and "Philly" Jeff Dyer as we talk about week 12 in the NFL. From the undefeated Carolina Panthers to the Patriots loss in Denver to the crazy finish in Cleveland, we'll talk about officiating, Johnny Manziel and the loss of Gronk. The Broncos are for real and will Tom be able to make Pro Bolwers out of rookies and backups or will the Patriots fade? Give us a call at 323-410-0028!