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Our first guest is Dr. David J. Hanson who operates the web site Alcohol Problems & Solutions. Dr. Hanson is Professor Emeritus of Sociology at SUNY Potsdam. Our second guest is Dr Sarah Bowen of the Addictive Behaviors Research Center at the University of Washington. Dr. Bowen, together with Dr. Neha Chawla, is the author of Mindfulness-Based Relapse Prevention for Addictive Behaviors A Clinician's Guide.