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InIt2WinIt with Quincy and Derek  

An NBA show with a focus on the San Antonio Spurs season, news, past teams, and general information. Hosted by Derek Sanders and Quincy Seale, we will also look at other news from major professional sports, or just have an entertaining argument if its a slow day.

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Next Sunday we'll broadcast live after watching the Spurs open practice at the AT&T Center. Our show will feature a comprehensive Spurs preview that explores every player by position, the season schedule, and our predictions for the season.
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    Defense? Keep Tony Park[ed].

    After a slow start, and back-to-back road losses to the Utah Jazz and Portland Trailblazers, the Spurs figured out a way to tighten their defense and move the ball better. The secret? Keep Tony Parker on the bench with yet another ankle injury. With Parker out, the Spurs had impressive wins against the Toronto Raptors and rival Dallas Mavericks. Unfortunately, what made these wins remarkable (besides Manu Ginobili's 30+ and Richard Jefferson's 29) was the fact that Tim Duncan was out as well. After gunning down Toronto and stifling Dallas, Tony and Tim rejoined the team on Saturday night as it faced the Oklahoma City Thunder. Tim posted his typical 20-10, but Parker's return was markedly different. Tony Parker's two turnovers and 1/5 fourth quarter shooting performance squandered a good return for Duncan and great effort for George Hill. Parker failed to involve Richard Jefferson and single-handedly lost the game. Bottom line - II2WI is tired and wants a trade. We'll also talk about some surprise teams, Josh Howard's injury, and LeBron James' supposed number change before we name our next Spurs Badass.

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    Center of Attention

    San Antonio Spurs fans are naturally some of the most discriminating in the league when it comes to expecting a certain level of play from the "5," after watching a specimen like David Robinson for 13 years.  Robinson could do it all, and that includes being able to guard The Big Charlatan better than anyone ever has.  I could use literally all of the space in which I am allowed to type to list The Admiral's achievements, accolades, awards and honors.  Instead, I will simply quote Charles Barkley - "David Robinson (is) the most athletic center, EVER."

    According to Hoopedia: "The center is relied upon at both ends of the floor. On offense, the center must be able to score inside (close to the basket), while on defense, he must block shots and rebound" (http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Center).  Since Mr. Robinson retired in 2003, the Spurs have definitely had players who met this description. 

    In 2005, the Playoff rotation of Tim Duncan, Nazr Mohammed, and Robert Horry was the best to take the floor since the Twin Towers patrolled the paint together, but Robert Horry spoiled the Spurs and their fans just as much as Robinson had.  San Antonio had now seen a center who could hit threes, especially clutch ones, rebound, block shots, draw charges, and get steals - and do so with an uncanny sense of timing that heralds comparisons to Jordan and Bird.  Following 2005, Francisco Elson, Fabricio Oberto, and Kurt Thomas were fine players, but didn't seem to have any specialties. 

    Enter: Matt Bonner.  With Horry slowly exiting the rotation and then the league, Bonner seemed like a logical step.  He was the lesser of a few evils.  None of the Spurs "big men" played the role of a traditional center, but Bonner's advantage was his three point shot.  Maybe he could become the next Horry....  The problem, however, is that Bonner can be effective ONLY when shooting 3's, and, faced with no other options, Gregg Popovich told him that doing so was the only way to ensure playing time.

    You've seen the first few games of the season, but think about them as you read the definition of a center again.  Does Bonner do any of that consistently?  The answer is no.  Guards and Forwards are supposed to hit outside shots - and we have players who can.  With Manu, RJ, Fin, Mason, and Hill we have three point shooters.  Centers are supposed to rebound, block, and get put-backs, and the Spurs aren't short in that department either.  Blair, McDyess, and Ratliff are all KICK ASS interior players, but one of them will see very few minutes because Bonner is INEFFECTIVE unless he starts, plays with Parker on the floor, and shoots a lot of 3's.

    ANY of the Spurs big men should start, and play, instead of Bonner.  McDyess can stretch the floor just enough for Duncan with his midrange game, Blair just tramples people to get rebounds, and if Theo Ratliff and Tim Duncan played together enough to develop good timing, they would block shots like David and Tim did in 1999 and 2003.  What will the Spurs miss if Bonner is not on the floor?  Nothing.  By starting Bonner, Popovich is sacrificing defense for offense when he doesn't even have to, and we all know he is smart enough to know it.  For the Spurs to return to the suffocating levels of defense with which they won championships, Bonner will have to go sit in his "Wicked Awesome Section" of the bench, and let the MEN play basketball.  Somewhere, some day, there may be another Robert Horry, but it's not Matt Bonner.  Not now.

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    II2WI: Rotaions, Predictions, and Questions - Is Manu Overrated?

    The moment we've all been waiting for - after the longest Summer in San Antonio since 2000, Spurs begin another campaign exactly 75 hours after this show. As usual, InIt2WinIt WILL GO where no other Spurs or Sports show will not. With training camp concluding and 16 players remaining on a roster that will hold 15 if coach Gregg Popovich is seriously impressed, fans are divided between Marcus Williams and the peoples' champion, Malik Hairston. II2WI will take a final look at each player and give our pick for the final roster spot. Another question facing Spurs fans is that of who plays...and how much. Will the Spurs start a familiar (and underachieving) lineup of Tim, Tony, Mason, Bonner, and Finley against the new Orleans Hornets on Wednesday? Perhaps the coaches will do what they were unable to last year - play a rotation of ass kickers. Tim Duncan, Richard Jefferson, Tony Parker, Roger Mason, and Antonio McDyess with a bench of Manu Ginobili, DeJuan Blair, Malik Hairston, Theo Ratliff, and George Hill. We've also got answers to the tough questions. Which teams make the palyoffs? Can the Spurs get past the Los Angeles Lakers? Should the Spurs make a trade? WILL the Spurs make a trade? Will Tony Parker retire a Spur? ...and the big one: Is Manu Ginobili overrated? In case that ain't enough, we'll throw in a Muhlenberg Minute, another all-time Spurs badass, and reveal Amare Stoudemire's new lens prescription!

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    The DRIVE for Five

    The San Antonio Spurs lost to the LA because they were deeper, more experienced, more clutch, hungrier, and had better chemistry.  The following Spurs season began with questions, uncertainty, and new players who had yet to learn Gregg Popovich's defensive schemes.  As they had the season before, most of the media picked the Lakers to win and Spurs fans were left wondering just how much emotion to invest in a season that may end on the purple and yellow Staples center floor.  In case you're wondering why this is written in the past tense - it's because I'm talking about October of 2002.  Tim Duncan had completed a dominant series against LA, but lost in five games.  Stephen Jackson sat on the bench with an injury, Antonio Daniels was on his way out of town, David Robinson announced he would retire after the next season, old players couldn't defend LA, and a rookie named Emanuel was coming to town.

    One year later, tears would stream down the face of Derek Fisher as the Spurs finished LA with a 20+ point blowout in the Staples Center.  I recall the '02-'03 season because many of the same questions are swirling around the NBA season preview shows today.  Spurs fans have been more excited this summer than they have been in a while, but the question still remains.  Can we beat the Lakers.  A former Spur said it best on NBA TV last week: "Realistically...yes," and Brent Barry would know. 

    Between 2002 and 2003 we swapped a Terry Porter, Steve Smith, Danny Ferry, and Cherokee Parks lineup with one that featured Parker, Claxton, Stephen Jackson, and Kevin Willis.  Older players who were a step slow defensively could not hit enough shots.  I see no difference now.  Instead of a 2008 lineup of Barry, Finley, Udoka, and Manu Ginobili's healthy left leg, we now have Mason, Richardson, Bogans, Hiarston, and Ginobili with Finley laying down cover-fire. 

    Simply put: not only can the Spurs beat LA, but it's realistic to think they will.  Not to dwell on the past, but San Antonio could have won the series in 2008.  Ginobili was not healthy, and Parker was inconsistent.  If Manu is playing like himself, the Spurs are able to win as they did in Game 3 in '08.  Ginobili's 30 point game was a blowout.  It was also the only game Ginobili performed in the series.  The Spurs lost to LA in 2008 because of rebounding and interior defense, and they have solved each of those problems.  Blair, McDyess, Ratliff, and Mahinmi are tougher and more athletic than Thomas, Oberto, and Bonner. 

    As much as it pains me to say, the Spurs' hope rests on Tony Parker.  In 2004, Parker ran circles around Gary Payton as the Spurs raced to A 2-0 series lead.  Previously known for his defense, Payton watched from half court as Parker made layups.  For some reason, Game 3 arrived, and so did Parker's love for the jump shot.  Parker quit driving, and we all know how that series turned out.  Parker and "Hedon't" Turkoglu are jsut as much to blame as Derek Fisher for the failed repeat attempt. 

    In 2008, the Spurs stormed to a 20 point lead in Game 1, in LA.  Parker threw a fast breaking fiesta and dashed past Fisher and Farmar for three quarters.  An avalanche of missed jumpers in the fourth allowed LA to mount an impressive comeback through momentum they would not relinquish that series.  Had the Spurs won Game 1, the series would have been different.

    With all other positions potentially canceling each other out, the Spurs own the point guard match-up (Bryan will have a slight edge on Jefferson even if his defense returns to '03 New Jersey levels & Manu will have a slight edge on Artest while the paint will be deadlocked).  I know George Hill is up to the challenge, but can Parker stick with his strength even if it means abandoning the desire to make jumpers that he gained watching MJ win games growing up?  Parker still has more potential than any PG in the league, and that's scary.  If he can keep driving and leave the shooting to the shooters, then Brent Barry will prove correct: "the Spurs can go all the way."

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    II2WI: Hill Yes! Variety & Open Lines

    In perhaps our most entertaining show yet, we'll welcome our friend Clint Muhlenberg to the studio for a tantalizing discussion of sports, entertainment, and pop culture. Of course, InIt2WinIt will provide a re-cap of Spurs training camp and the preseason so far. Hill keeps leading, Blair keeps rebounding, Hairston keeps looking like Mario Ellie, and Amare's glasses KEEP fogging up! We'll talk about the tough roster decisions facing San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, who took the night off Friday as the Spurs beat the Cleveland Cavaliers. Also, after huge games against the Miami Heat and Houston Rockets, DeJuan Blair has officially emerged as a potential badass. We'll even throw in a segment about the Ginger Avenger, Matt Bonner, blocking the 'Big Witness Protection,' Shaquille O'Neal, and talk about Popovich's praise of George Hill...and don;t forget our next badass on the countdown.

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    San Antonio Spurs Preview

    This is the show we have all been waiting for. After a detailed examination of the Spurs' open practice at the beautiful AT&T Center, we'll be back in prime time Sunday for an extensive preview of the 2009-2010 Spurs Season. With Preseason play beginning against the Houston Rockets (yet again) in only two days, there is a lot to talk about. Spurs mainstays Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, and Michael Finley are completing another training camp together along with Roger Mason, Jr., Matt Bonner (The Ginger Avenger), George Hill, and Ian Mahinmi. This core from last season is also joined by several new faces that include newly anointed Spurs Richard Jefferson, Antonio McDyess, Keith Bogans, DeJuan Blair, Malik Hairston, and Theo Ratliff. The Spurs' shopping spree this summer has provided fans with a more exciting off-season than we have seen in recent years. The team has the youth and athleticism it was criticized for lacking, and they still have Tim Duncan. In addition, Gregg Popovich has abridged the Spurs' playbook to acclimate the influx of new players, hearkening back to the motion offense used to annihilate opponents (namely the Suns) in 2005. InIt2WinIt will preview the season with an analysis of each player by position, and ask the tough questions that no other San Antonio sports programs will. Should Tony Parker be traded? Is Ginobili the key, or an overrated player? How much does he have left? What is Tim's impact this season? Can we find the defense we haven't had since June of 2007? How old is Dikemebe Mutombo, really? REALLY? We'll even ask the most puzzling question in basketball history: Between Karl Malone and Hakeem Olajuwon, whose English is worse? And don't forget our countdown of the Most Badass Spurs of All Time....

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    God Bless Sporting News...Almost

    Spurs fans, and Derek's and my loyal radio listeners, were treated to some news last week that those outside of South Texas may consider to be unexpected.  As seen on www.spurs.com, the San Antonio Spurs were given the media credit they have deserved for years in the form of a few awards.  Sporting News named the Spurs Team of the Decade, Gregg Popovich Coach of the Decade, and rightfully placed Tim Duncan on the All-Decade First Team.  These selections are momentous and historical, but as usual, I still feel like the Spurs got robbed.  Let's break it down...

    Team of the Decade:  Selecting the Spurs for this honor is simple to Bexar County residents, but I am surprised by it.  I naturally assumed Sporting News would give this one to the LA Lakers.  Don't get me wrong, I think the Spurs deserve it, but I am wholeheartedly shocked that I'm not alone in this assessment.  The Spurs and Lakers have an equal number of titles in the last ten years, but not in this decade.  However, the Spurs have a better winning percentage and have been true contenders every year of the decade, while the Lakers have not.  2005, 2006, and 2007 saw the Lakers as a good team, but no one's pick to win a title.  No one gave them an honest shot until February of 2008 when a certain trade was made.  The Spurs have been more consistent and stable, and if not for a knee injury in 2000, bad officiating call in 2004, and 146 bad officiating calls in 2006, the AT&T Center rafters would be even more crowded.  Good call Sporting News.

    Coach of the Decade: Again, I think I'm having heart palpitations as I write this paragraph.  How could the media not pick Phil Jackson for this in the wake of a tenth title and conversations about him being the best coach of all time?  Simple questions deserve simple answers: Gregg Popovich is the better coach.  Robert Horry said it best when asked about playing for the two last year.  "If Pop had the talent Phil had for his career, he would have more than 10 titles."  Pop's family mentality and equal opportunity critiquing are far more conducive to winning than Phil's peace pipe favoritism.  Yelling at superstar Tim Duncan and demanding his best earns the respect of any player in the Silver and Black - a far cry from giving John Paxson a copy of Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.  Another good call Sporting News.

    All Decade First Team: Nash and Bryant at guard, Duncan and James at forward, and the Big Charlatan at center.  I have only one problem here: Kevin Garnett ahs played the entire decade and Lebron James has not.  Plus I just don;t like Lebron James.  Nice move putting Tim on here.  You wouldn't want to leave the best power forward EVER off this list.  Somewhere a tear rolls off Karl Mlore's face and onto a John Deere radiator in the Louisiana heat. 

    Athlete of the Decade: "Kobe Bryant, Lakers SG, over Tim Duncan, Spurs PF" (spurs.com).  Now this is the bias I was expecting to see.  This is not only ridiculous, but an egregious error on the part of Sporting News.  More MVP's, more Finals MVP's, better defense, and a more complete statistical package warrant Tim Duncan's award of this moniker.  Sure, Kobe pours in the points and looks DAMN good in a courtroom sketch, but Duncan has done more over a longer period of time.  Duncan has been an MVP candidate every year of the time period in question.  Consistency is more valuable on the court than in from of a jury of one's peers.  Sure Tim Duncan is not as technically athletic as #8 (or #24 [or docket #357]), but he historically controls the pace of a game better than Kobe, who began doing so over the last two seasons.  Duncan's presence has afforded the Spurs the best winning percentage in professional sports over the past 11 years, and this award belongs to him.  An NBA player hasn't been robbed like this since Antone Walker got jumped by Chicago thugs a few years ago, but Tim Duncan already knows how Harrah's Lake Tahoe feels.  He is owed much, but it is not always given to him.  He just keeps working, and just keeps winning.  Good call Tim Duncan.

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