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The Center for Urban Biblical Ministry has been educating adults in the Pittsburgh area in partnership with Geneva College since 1988. Since 1998, Karla Byrd has been the CUBM director, guiding the program through rough waters to calm seas. She has also been instrumental in founding the Pittsburgh Urban Heroes Program, and was recognized as an urban hero herself. Today John Stanko, the show's co-host, interviews Karla to talk about life, CUBM, what it takes to be an urban hero and the state of CUBM and adult education in general in the 21st century.