Is Heart Break Real?? My guests cardiologist Dr Alica Williams and Clinical social worker Erin Stohl would say yes. Find how the fascinating reasons why heart break is not in your imagination and discover ways to heal. Alicia Williams, DO, Integrative Cardiologist (Board certified Cardiology) from the Center for Optimal Health in East Lansing and Erin Stohl, LMSW. Clinical social worker with a holistic psychotherapy practice in Plymouth.