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As writers, the psychic world abounds with mystery, intrigue, and fascination. But what do we really know about it outside of our imagined concepts? Toni Allen is not only an author, but also a respected tarot reader and astrologer, and she enjoys talking about both worlds. In this podcast, we talked about her latest book Visiting Lilly, understanding the art and process of tarot reading, and why understanding the astrological signs of your characters might help you create a better story. Toni is engaging and down-to-earth with her explanations and anecdotes, and she was a blast to interview.