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Returning guest Rick Pay, an expert on Lean and manufacturing, explains ways to partner with suppliers in long term relationships that cut costs for both parties. Sometimes that's more valuable than beating them up. Learn how to tell as well as how and why to do it. My second guest is Kate Vitasek, a faculty member at the Center for Executive Education and lead author of the new book "Vested Outsourcing" that describes new research results on making outsourcing and partnering work better.