October 11, 2012 with guests Ava Bird and John Grant

Chuck Gregory and MIke Palecek welcome returning guest poet Ava Bird and new visitor John Grant.

• Bay area poet/artist/activist Ava Bird was one of our very first guests and we always look forward to her visits. She'll tell us what's happening out West and share a poem or two. We love to listen to her read her poetry.
• John Grant has a couple of Hugos and World Fantasy Awards among other praise that has headed his way. He's published more than 70 books, both fiction and non. He'll be talking about pseudoscience and what he calls 'science denialism' and it should be fun despite the very sad truth that lies beneath the banter.

We'll present our version of the presidential debates, give a tribute to Bill Hicks, and as always close with The News from Mount Liberty.