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Host Name: WC Always On Watch
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The Gathering Storm Radio Show


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DMartyr

DMartyr

(cont) ... challenged your guests about the idea that the quran is supposedly the perfect word of god, and cannot be changed or altered...

DMartyr

DMartyr

Good show, guys, but I wonder why you didn't use more controversial verses such as 4:34 (permission to beat wives) or 4:89 (take no non-muslim helpers and slay them wherever you find them) or even 5:33 (punishment for mischief)? Also, your second guest quoted Yusufali when complaining about the incorrect verse (24:54), yet all of his other interpretations contradicted the Yusufali translation... So... Yusufali is accurate when it suits him? Also, I wish you had challenged your guests about the

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

The second form of the verb (to marry off) can be found in 24:32 and 28:27.

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

ONLY ONE Classical Arabic Grammarian suggests Nikaha means as the arabic speaker perversely mentions 'the F word'...Ibn Faris al-Qazwini's Mujmal al-lughah ...the rest of the Classical Arabic grammarians state and confirm that Nikaha means marriage!...The verbs Nakaha and Ankaha have the same imperative form Ankuhu - This is the plural form-. The first form of the verb Nakaha (to marry) can be found in many verses: 2:221, 2:230, 4:22, 24:3, 33:49, 33:53, 60:10. The second form of the verb (to ma

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

Ibn Faris al-Qazwini's Mujmal al-lughah d. 390/395 and Taj El-'Aroos by Al-Zubaidi d. 1791 are the ONLY references to signify Nikaha as intercourse; intercourse without marriage and/or marriage WITHOUT intercourse...Lisan El Arab Ibn Mukarram d.711 Inkihini for legal ; Saw'fihini for illegal

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

Mohammed Ibn At-Teiyib Al-Fasee author of ‘Annotations on the Kamoos’ refers to Nakaha as marriage of a Man, and confirms its use in the Quran...Al -Jowharee d. 398 author of ‘Sihah’ and Taj El-'Aroos by Al-Zubaidi d. 1791/1205 also define Nakaha as reference to a Man in marriage...Al Mawid Nikaha means Marriage, Matrimony, Wedlock...Dictionary of the Holy Quran Nikaha means He married, marriage or contract...Lanes Lexicon Part 8 page 2847 - 2848 Marriage

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

The arabic speaker in his perverted thinking suggested Nikhaha means 'the F word'...the arabic speaker is ignorant.... BEFORE Islam When a Man demanded a Women in marriage or desired fornication he would say 'Inkihini' for legal or 'Saw'fihini' for illegal; inkihoo (nun is eliminated) means marry, get married:Nakaha : to marry Ankaha : to marry off Istankaha : to ask/seek for marriage.

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

Thus, Ayesha (ra), if she got married in 1 AH (after hijrah) or 2 AH, was between 18 to 20 years old at the time of her marriage to Muhammed.

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

The arabic speakers OWN REFERENCE Ibn Kathir, states Asma, the elder sister of Ayesha was 10 years older than Ayesha! Its also stated in the following TAQREEB AL-TEHZEEB AS WELL AS AL-BIDAAYAH WA AL-NIHAYAH that Asma (ra) died in 73 hijrah when she was 100 years old. Now, obviously if Asma (ra) was 100 years old in 73 hijrah she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah. If Asma (ra) was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Asma was 10 years older than Ayesha. AYESHA (RA) S

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

In regards to the age of Ayesha....as illustrated in the discussion.... She [i.e. Asma] was ten years elder to her sister [i.e. Ayesha]. (Al-Bidaayah wa al-Nihaayah, Ibn Kathir, Vol. 8, pg. 371, Arabic, Dar al-fikr al-`arabiy, Al-jizah, 1933) Asma (ra) was ten years older than Ayesha. (Siyar A`la'ma'l-nubala', Al-Zahabi, Vol. 2, pg. 289, Arabic, Mu'assasatu'l-risala'h, Beirut, 1992)

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

Attached to Yatama is 'Al' is a Definite Article أداة التعريف, used to give the meaning of ‘Most, All, Complete, Maximum, Whole, and to denote comprehensiveness, all aspects or categories of a subject, or to denote perfection and includes all degrees and grades.

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

[Al] yatama [noun, plural] sole, unmatched, single, lonely, jaded, one withoutparents; Root word atamm means more complete, more perfect, perfectly prepared, totally ready; Root word Tamm meaning consummate, of full value, self contained, needing no completion; Root word Tamma means to or become complete, completed, finished, done, to be performed, be accomplished, to come to an end; Hans Wehr Arabic English Dictionary 4th Ed. page 117-118 (tamma)

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

Yateem means orphan....[Al-Fajr 89.17] No, No! but you honour not the orphans / al-yateema! / الْيَتِيمَ

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

As I referenced in the discussion...[Al-Nisa'a 4.6] Keep pious and chaste, single/unmatched adults until they reach the age of maturity for marriage / Wa ibtaloo alyatama hatta itha balaghoo alnnikaha / وَابْتَلُواْ الْيَتَامَى حَتَّىَ إِذَا بَلَغُواْ النِّكَاحَ Al-Yatama does NOT mean orphan

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

The Prophet was NOT a Pedophile, as I made clear in the discussion, those hadiths from Iraq are NOT acceptable and deemed slanderous. I have been told that Malik [ibn Anas] objected on those narratives of Hisham which were reported through people of Iraq. (Tehzi'bu'l-tehzi'b, Ibn Hajar Al-`Asqala'ni, Arabic, Dar Ihya al-turath al-Islami, Vol. 11, pg. 50)

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

The Prophet was NOT a Pedophile, as I made clear in the discussion, those hadiths from Iraq are NOT acceptable and deemed slanderous. Yaqub ibn Shaibah says: He [i.e. Hisham] is highly reliable, his narratives are acceptable, EXCEPT what he narrated after shifting to Iraq.(Tehzeeb al-Tehzeeb, Ibn Hajar Al-`Asqalaaniy, Arabic, Dar Ihya al-turath al-Islami, Vol. 11, pg. 50) I have been told that Malik [ibn Anas] objected on those narratives of Hisham which were reported through people of Iraq. (

Muslimtruthrevealed

Muslimtruthrevealed

Actually, Lithium would not have been my choice. Small glass of cold water sufficed. @Michael your 'inner city' reference shows your ignorance. Just because someone 'speaks' arabic dialect, does NOT suggest they know the Quran, as the Arabic speaking guest illustrated. EACH and EVERY reference and response he made was from a satirical 'story'. He was asked several times to define the arabic term in the verse that supported his 'story', the arabic speaking guest refused. The Arabic of Quran is

Always On Watch

Always On Watch

This was the sort-of chat room during the show? I had no idea!

KarenO

KarenO

Great show.

Michael Travis

Michael Travis

Hebrew also

Michael Travis

Michael Travis

Language is very important in the Semitic world

Michael Travis

Michael Travis

Oh! So the Brophet was a Paedophile and not condoned by the Ko-ran?

Michael Travis

Michael Travis

Or not

Michael Travis

Michael Travis

Or not

Michael Travis

Michael Travis

We are all born Muslim

Michael Travis

Michael Travis

Yom is day in Hebrew

Michael Travis

Michael Travis

Give that guy some lithium

Michael Travis

Michael Travis

Yeah

Michael Travis

Michael Travis

"Hof" is also "mountain" in Hebrew

Michael Travis

Michael Travis

I love it! An inner-city American translating Arabic for an Arab

Michael Travis

Michael Travis

Hi

Aeneas

Aeneas

Seems like you are in the chat

Aeneas

Aeneas

I can see what you just wrote RFD

RadioFreeDaralHarb

RadioFreeDaralHarb

Can't get chat, but this debate is great! Good job Always and WC!

Aeneas

Aeneas

Is anybody else here?

Aeneas

Aeneas

Seems to work in a similar way to the chat room but with icons to represent people who are "chatting"

Aeneas

Aeneas

Is this the new "improved" chat room?

RadioFreeDaralHarb

RadioFreeDaralHarb

No Chat?

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