http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyerThe religious and spiritual Jesus is the product of the Luciferian Space Alien misinformation campaign. That is the myth not what he said.enCopyright Sawyer West (C/O Blogtalkradio)Sat, 15 Jun 2019 10:00:00 GMTWed, 22 Feb 2017 04:30:00 GMTReligionBlogTalkRadio Feed v2.0https://dasg7xwmldix6.cloudfront.net/hostpics/0fcf4806-3ecf-4aed-9b03-695e20fd8ee0_thumbnail_for_30_min_blog_talk_and_youtube_post.jpghttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyerThe religious and spiritual Jesus is the product of the Luciferian Space Alien misinformation campaign. That is the myth not what he said.feeds@blogtalkradio.comBlogTalkRadio.comJesus,Ti and Do,Lucifer,aliens,ufo,prophecy,Two Witnesses,Revelations,Level Above Human,Texas,Mark TwainTiDo WitnessesnoDo (was incarnate as Jesus) Plain Talk of the Father (Ti)episodichttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2017/02/22/evidenceti-dothe-father-jesus-heavens-gate-ufo-two-witnessesReligionhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2017/02/22/evidenceti-dothe-father-jesus-heavens-gate-ufo-two-witnesses/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2017/02/22/evidenceti-dothe-father-jesus-heavens-gate-ufo-two-witnessesWed, 22 Feb 2017 04:30:00 GMTEvidence:TI & DO=The Father & "Jesus" Heaven's Gate UFO Two WitnessesMy new Book front and back cover text follows with ordering instructions at the end: Front cover Text: This "Little Book" Provides the "Backside" Evidence Showing How All Jesus' Prophecy Revelations are Fulfilled By Those Who were Known as: TI & DO The Father and "Jesus" Heaven's Gate UFO Two Witnesses Who Returned Incarnate With Their "Saints" From 1972 to 1997 Prophesied in the Book of Revelations Termed by Christians as "The Second Coming" From The Physical "Evolutionary" Level Above Human The Kingdom of God in Heaven Whose Membership: "Wear" Physical Vehicles (Bodies), Grown on a Vine (That Human bodies are Designed to Resemble) To Work Within Planet Sized Spacecrafts Like Pluto and Ceres That Serve as Laboratories for Their Earth Soul-Growing "Garden" Experiments That Incorporate the Negative Influence of The Luciferian "Space" Aliens, aka "The Fallen Angels" So Prospective New Members, Directed By Incarnate Older Members May Overcome the Human "Evolutionary" Kingdom To Graduate Into the Next Level Kingdom In the Literal Heavens Book Ordering Information: EBOOK ON AMAZON $3.99: https://www.amazon.com/Father-Jesus-HeavenS-Gate-Witnesses-ebook/dp/B01MZDYLLO/ref=cm_sw_em_r_dp_v_da_zF.Iyb2V2PTV6_tt SOFTECOVER: $43.99 http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ti-do-father-jesus-heavens-gate-ufo-two-witnesses-sawyer/1125515379?ean=9781524657628   00:18:00TiDo WitnessesnoJesus,Christian,Heaven's Gate,Ti and Do,RevelationsAll Jesus prophecy including Book of Revelations is analysed from Greek and Hebrew to showhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2015/07/09/are-pluto-and-ceres-dwarf-planets-bases-for-ti-father-and-do-was-jesusReligionhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2015/07/09/are-pluto-and-ceres-dwarf-planets-bases-for-ti-father-and-do-was-jesus/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2015/07/09/are-pluto-and-ceres-dwarf-planets-bases-for-ti-father-and-do-was-jesusThu, 09 Jul 2015 03:00:00 GMTAre Pluto and Ceres dwarf planets bases for Ti (Father) and Do (was Jesus)There is a mountain of scriptural and practical evidence that Ti and Do were the promised incarnate phase of the so called "second coming" of Jesus with the Kingdom of God. Since they left their incarnations by 1997 where are we now in the timeline and how can that be justified in scripture and how this all relates to the recent NASA photographs that show what looks like a "city" on Ceres and another strange intelligent looking phenomena on Pluto that I say are NOT space alien because the space aliens are the Luciferian fallen angels of Genesis 6 "sons of God mating with daughters of men" and the Book of Enoch's "watchers" and from Isaiah's depiction of Lucifer's fall from heaven. So  how does Pluto and Ceres fit in? In June of  2015 NASA posted pictures of Ceres from the Dawn spacecraft that at first showed two dots of light on the otherwise dark dwarf planet. On a closer pic those two lights looked like over 8 lights some in a rectangular shape. It looked like a little town or city would look on earth from the same distance away if there was no atmosphere to get in the way. Then the New Horizons spacecraft sent back pictures of Pluto that showed very clear 300 mile wide rectangular shapes equidistantly spaced along it's equator. Ti and Do directed a movie script in 1982 that showed Pluto as a Next Level (kingdom of God/heaven) base. 00:31:00TiDo WitnessesnoJesus,ti and do,revelations,outer space,ufothe truth is stranger than fictionhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/20/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesusChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/20/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesus/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/20/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesusThu, 20 Mar 2014 01:00:00 GMTISON Nirabu ufo space aliens 7 Angels Ti(Father/Woman) Do(Jesus)Re: ISON - Through the examination of youtube channel's bpearthwatch videos and what I know about Ti and Do and what I see in the historic records to include Jesus prophecy in the Book of Revelations, ISON appears to be related to the 3rd woe. Each "woe" was actually an EXCLAMATION with trumpets 5, 6 and 7 that come before the WOES. It appears to me that the 7th trumpet was being sounded, which is a stage of communication by thoughts. words, ideas, understandings regarding the reality of the Next Physical Evolutionary Level Above Human and Their agenda which has global reach that suggests Their truth, relative to all prophecies. Certain information that would reveal hidden truths expressed with the 7th angel's sounding in Rev 11. I may be wrong but as best I can tell the National Geographics channel, "Final Report: Heaven's Gate" was just such a global wide announcement that strongly suggested even in it's byline that the Heaven's Gate effort was the so called "second coming" of Jesus., his "Father" and the 24 elder students (saints), though it's first of two phases coordinated with each harvest. That documentary didn't need to say a lot. Just by stating in no uncertain terms that this might have been the second coming should have stimulated those looking for Jesus return, to at the very least "consider" it then or later as calamities unfold or they are casting judgement over themselves as to who they want to be in allegiance to - The Next Level Above Human as spoken "plainly and boldly" about by Ti & Do or Mammon (humanism) in all it's forms. So ISON I believe is the start of the 7 angels with vials depicted in Rev 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. 01:57:00TiDo Witnessesnospade aliens,ufo,jesus,second coming,two witnessesRe: ISON - Through the examination of youtube channel's bpearthwatch videos and what I know about Ti and Do and what I see in the historic records to include Jehttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/17/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesusChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/17/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesus/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/17/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesusMon, 17 Mar 2014 01:00:00 GMTISON Nirabu ufo space aliens 7 Angels Ti(Father/Woman) Do(Jesus)Re: ISON - Through the examination of youtube channel's bpearthwatch videos and what I know about Ti and Do and what I see in the historic records to include Jesus prophecy in the Book of Revelations, ISON appears to be related to the 3rd woe. Each "woe" was actually an EXCLAMATION with trumpets 5, 6 and 7 that come before the WOES. It appears to me that the 7th trumpet was being sounded, which is a stage of communication by thoughts. words, ideas, understandings regarding the reality of the Next Physical Evolutionary Level Above Human and Their agenda which has global reach that suggests Their truth, relative to all prophecies. Certain information that would reveal hidden truths expressed with the 7th angel's sounding in Rev 11. I may be wrong but as best I can tell the National Geographics channel, "Final Report: Heaven's Gate" was just such a global wide announcement that strongly suggested even in it's byline that the Heaven's Gate effort was the so called "second coming" of Jesus., his "Father" and the 24 elder students (saints), though it's first of two phases coordinated with each harvest. That documentary didn't need to say a lot. Just by stating in no uncertain terms that this might have been the second coming should have stimulated those looking for Jesus return, to at the very least "consider" it then or later as calamities unfold or they are casting judgement over themselves as to who they want to be in allegiance to - The Next Level Above Human as spoken "plainly and boldly" about by Ti & Do or Mammon (humanism) in all it's forms. So ISON I believe is the start of the 7 angels with vials depicted in Rev 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. 01:57:00TiDo Witnessesnospade aliens,ufo,jesus,second coming,two witnessesRe: ISON - Through the examination of youtube channel's bpearthwatch videos and what I know about Ti and Do and what I see in the historic records to include Jehttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/13/nephilimspace-aliens-and-many-humansdescendanthybrids-of-fallen-angelsChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/13/nephilimspace-aliens-and-many-humansdescendanthybrids-of-fallen-angels/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/13/nephilimspace-aliens-and-many-humansdescendanthybrids-of-fallen-angelsThu, 13 Mar 2014 01:00:00 GMTNephilim=Space Aliens and many humans=descendant/hybrids of fallen angelsMy clearest presentation yet of how the entire human race is to date a combonation of two genetic influences. We are constructed from genes that came from the humans that existed on Earth before the Adam and Eve experiment began, plus the Adam/Eve influence and then finally from the Space Alien (fallen angels) hybridization program and/or propogation with those humans who were not seeded via the Adam/Eve strain. As it explains in the Book of Enoch and Genesis chapter 6, those 200 or so humans and/or human equivilents (if some came from another star system) who had once been seeded with souls from the Level Above Human and who grew to have some elementary service to the Next Level as "watchers", were attracted to humans who were considered to be mortals in that they had not received souls, that they impregnated either directly by intercourse or in some other way, in either case a hybrid due to their differences produced "giant" offspring. The Hebrew word translated to "giant" was Nephilim and it also meant "great" so didn't have to mean they were bigger in stature. According to Enoch they were taught things that made them look great in the eyes of the mortal humans - how to use herbs to heal, etc. things that the Next Level preferred not to teach humans at that time as the humans could get all the help they needed if they fostered a relationship with the Kingdom of God/Heaven. However these Nephilim began killing and even eating mortal humans. It was because of their tremdensous violence that the Kingdom of God/Heaven felt they were weeds in the garden so needed to erradicate them all, thus    brought about the great flood. Those who escaped underground when they were allowed to surface became some of today's space aliens and continued their propogation of their seed alongside the development of adam/eve's seed. 01:54:00TiDo Witnessesnospade aliens,ufo,jesus,second coming,two witnessesMy clearest presentation yet of how the entire human race is to date a combonation of two genetic influences. We are constructed from genes that came from the hhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/10/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesusChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/10/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesus/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/10/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesusMon, 10 Mar 2014 01:00:00 GMTISON Nirabu ufo space aliens 7 Angels Ti(Father/Woman) Do(Jesus)Re: ISON - Through the examination of youtube channel's bpearthwatch videos and what I know about Ti and Do and what I see in the historic records to include Jesus prophecy in the Book of Revelations, ISON appears to be related to the 3rd woe. Each "woe" was actually an EXCLAMATION with trumpets 5, 6 and 7 that come before the WOES. It appears to me that the 7th trumpet was being sounded, which is a stage of communication by thoughts. words, ideas, understandings regarding the reality of the Next Physical Evolutionary Level Above Human and Their agenda which has global reach that suggests Their truth, relative to all prophecies. Certain information that would reveal hidden truths expressed with the 7th angel's sounding in Rev 11. I may be wrong but as best I can tell the National Geographics channel, "Final Report: Heaven's Gate" was just such a global wide announcement that strongly suggested even in it's byline that the Heaven's Gate effort was the so called "second coming" of Jesus., his "Father" and the 24 elder students (saints), though it's first of two phases coordinated with each harvest. That documentary didn't need to say a lot. Just by stating in no uncertain terms that this might have been the second coming should have stimulated those looking for Jesus return, to at the very least "consider" it then or later as calamities unfold or they are casting judgement over themselves as to who they want to be in allegiance to - The Next Level Above Human as spoken "plainly and boldly" about by Ti & Do or Mammon (humanism) in all it's forms. So ISON I believe is the start of the 7 angels with vials depicted in Rev 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. 01:58:00TiDo Witnessesnospade aliens,ufo,jesus,second coming,two witnessesRe: ISON - Through the examination of youtube channel's bpearthwatch videos and what I know about Ti and Do and what I see in the historic records to include Jehttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/06/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesusChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/06/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesus/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/06/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesusThu, 06 Mar 2014 02:00:00 GMTISON Nirabu ufo space aliens 7 Angels Ti(Father/Woman) Do(Jesus)Re: ISON - Through the examination of youtube channel's bpearthwatch videos and what I know about Ti and Do and what I see in the historic records to include Jesus prophecy in the Book of Revelations, ISON appears to be related to the 3rd woe. Each "woe" was actually an EXCLAMATION with trumpets 5, 6 and 7 that come before the WOES. It appears to me that the 7th trumpet was being sounded, which is a stage of communication by thoughts. words, ideas, understandings regarding the reality of the Next Physical Evolutionary Level Above Human and Their agenda which has global reach that suggests Their truth, relative to all prophecies. Certain information that would reveal hidden truths expressed with the 7th angel's sounding in Rev 11. I may be wrong but as best I can tell the National Geographics channel, "Final Report: Heaven's Gate" was just such a global wide announcement that strongly suggested even in it's byline that the Heaven's Gate effort was the so called "second coming" of Jesus., his "Father" and the 24 elder students (saints), though it's first of two phases coordinated with each harvest. That documentary didn't need to say a lot. Just by stating in no uncertain terms that this might have been the second coming should have stimulated those looking for Jesus return, to at the very least "consider" it then or later as calamities unfold or they are casting judgement over themselves as to who they want to be in allegiance to - The Next Level Above Human as spoken "plainly and boldly" about by Ti & Do or Mammon (humanism) in all it's forms. So ISON I believe is the start of the 7 angels with vials depicted in Rev 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. 01:56:00TiDo Witnessesnospade aliens,ufo,jesus,second coming,two witnessesRe: ISON - Through the examination of youtube channel's bpearthwatch videos and what I know about Ti and Do and what I see in the historic records to include Jehttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/03/meaning-kingdom-god-is-within-you-and-not-observe-his-comingChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/03/meaning-kingdom-god-is-within-you-and-not-observe-his-coming/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/03/03/meaning-kingdom-god-is-within-you-and-not-observe-his-comingMon, 03 Mar 2014 02:00:00 GMTMeaning: "kingdom God is within you" and NOT OBSERVE his comingJesus is saying you will not actually have him in your sights when he comes back. You won't see him by keeping an eye out for him. But aren't christians saying he's coming in the clouds for all eyes to see as it says in revelations, so how is it both unless SEE is "understand" which comes from "within" when you have been gifted to have that recognition. Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom ((932 basileia=realm)) (of) God cometh not with observation (3907 parateresis= in the sight of, by keeping an eye upon)): Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! ((5602 hode= (in) this place)) or, lo there! ((1563 ekei= (to) yonder place)) for, behold, the kingdom of God is within* ((in the midst, from within you, from among you - in other words incarnate, face to face as Moses also indicated of Jesus' coming as they would come from among the brethern "like unto me"** he said)) you. How there are many entities that can be from anywhere in the solar system and how some could help some get to the top of the human mountain but that none will help us get off the mountain. We need Members of the Level Above Human to do that. 02:12:00TiDo Witnessesnospade aliens,ufo,jesus,second coming,two witnessesJesus is saying you will not actually have him in your sights when he comes back. You won't see him by keeping an eye out for him. But aren't christians sayinghttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/02/20/ti-and-do-fulfillments-of-prophecy-of-revelationsChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/02/20/ti-and-do-fulfillments-of-prophecy-of-revelations/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/02/20/ti-and-do-fulfillments-of-prophecy-of-revelationsThu, 20 Feb 2014 02:00:00 GMTTi and Do fulfillments of prophecy of RevelationsNot sure of the specifics of this but you can find things posted around this date on my youtube channel: http://www.youtube/user/3spm that will be the video version of this audio file and will have a better description. 01:55:00TiDo Witnessesnospade aliens,ufo,jesus,second coming,two witnessesNot sure of the specifics of this but you can find things posted around this date on my youtube channel: http://www.youtube/user/3spm that will be the video verhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/02/17/book-of-revelations-and-ti-and-doChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/02/17/book-of-revelations-and-ti-and-do/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/02/17/book-of-revelations-and-ti-and-doMon, 17 Feb 2014 02:00:00 GMTBook of Revelations and Ti and DoNot sure of the specifics of this but you can find things posted around this date on my youtube channel: http://www.youtube/user/3spm that will be the video version of this audio file and will have a better description.   01:58:00TiDo Witnessesnospade aliens,ufo,jesus,second coming,two witnessesNot sure of the specifics of this but you can find things posted around this date on my youtube channel: http://www.youtube/user/3spm that will be the video verhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/02/03/rev-mysteries-unsealed--the-rev-12-woman-is-ti-incarnateChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/02/03/rev-mysteries-unsealed--the-rev-12-woman-is-ti-incarnate/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/02/03/rev-mysteries-unsealed--the-rev-12-woman-is-ti-incarnateMon, 03 Feb 2014 02:00:00 GMTRev Mysteries Unsealed - The Rev 12 Woman is Ti incarnateTalk about the astronomical references to Rev 12:1 where the "woman clothed Sun" where sun = a ray of light and Sun representing the Father is saying that this individual is that "light ray" that chooses to wrap around (clothe) her "light body", the actual Soul that came from the Next Level by discarding her existing physical body in a "ufo crash", with the body of a human woman named Bonnie Lu Truesdale Nettles. All these revelations have literal application to the end times we are certainly engaged within. The use of "clothing" is rooted in what we wrap around our body and there are many references to "making our clothing  pure, related to light and related to white  (though as a race are certainly not pure but are actually anything but as purity is not based on skin pigment but IS based on having Next Level (kingdom of God/heaven) behavior and ways). For instance "cleaning our robe", putting on white raiment, etc. The Next Level design physical bodys LIKE clothing in that if it's removed They are NOT dead, while in the human kingdom they are dead - (discarnate) and still exist as a spirit to eventually be recycled at the garden's recycling time, while if that human bonded with a Next Level incarnate representative while they were incarnate or soon afterwards then when they die their "soul body" however tiny and even seed like in it's development is "saved" so is literally taken to a Next Level "heaven" a literal location in a Next Level dwelling (one of the levels in enoch's described seven heavens). Continued to re-translate this verse and a few others. Also talked about the adam and eve story with some new perspectives of how and why that took place.  http://youtu.be/tm078VPAm78 01:58:00TiDo Witnessesnospade aliens,ufo,jesus,second coming,two witnessesTalk about the astronomical references to Rev 12:1 where the "woman clothed Sun" where sun = a ray of light and Sun representing the Father is saying that thishttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/30/new-revelations-mysteries-unsealed--the-four-horses-humans-of-the-apocolypseChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/30/new-revelations-mysteries-unsealed--the-four-horses-humans-of-the-apocolypse/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/30/new-revelations-mysteries-unsealed--the-four-horses-humans-of-the-apocolypseThu, 30 Jan 2014 02:00:00 GMTNEW Revelations Mysteries Unsealed - The Four Horses (humans) of the ApocolypseThis broadcast mostly covered Revelations chapter 6, what has been referred to as the four horses of the Apocalypse. Scripture indicates in this context these 4 horses are actually depicting humans, as to the Next Level a human is like a horse. This context is explained in Zechariah. Marshall Applewhite was the name of the White Horse, having as prophesied: Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; This "vehicle" (body) was "sit upon" - taken over for His task by the same Soul who last had a physical vehicle named "Jesus". Jesus said the eye is the lamp of the eye. An lamp gives off light, thus through his eyes others can come to see. G.W. Bush was the "horse". A discarnate luciferian space alien inhabited him and used him as a figurehead to stimulate "endless war". Then Obama, as the black horse is also influenced by a discarnate Luciferian space alien to help steer the two beasts of the republicans and democrats with his focus while in office being financial. He inherited financial crisis and wall street people became his closest advisers. Here's the link to the video: http://youtu.be/Tc4h8KXb5U0 01:57:00TiDo Witnessesnospade aliens,ufo,jesus,second coming,two witnessesThis broadcast mostly covered Revelations chapter 6, what has been referred to as the four horses of the Apocalypse. Scripture indicates in this context these 4http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/27/new-revelations-mysteries-unsealed--the-two-witnessesChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/27/new-revelations-mysteries-unsealed--the-two-witnesses/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/27/new-revelations-mysteries-unsealed--the-two-witnessesMon, 27 Jan 2014 02:00:00 GMTNEW Revelations Mysteries Unsealed - The Two WitnessesNEW Revelations Mysteries Unsealed - The Two Witnesses The audio on this was messed up so here is a youtube link:http://youtu.be/3vWDCm_ZXcA This 2 hour broadcast covers Rev 11 Two Witnesses, bringing brand NEW translation/interpretations to most of the chapters verses that show how we are currently in the period of the 7th Angel's sounding (trumpet). Also talk of Comets as Signs from Kingdom of Gods from the literal heavens with comet ISON's proposed trajectory over the Ohio valley in line with the large array of fireball sightings in March of 2013. February of 2013 was 40 years (one hour Next Level time) from when Ti and Do were in Bourne, Texas. This was the "3rd woe" I believe that consisted of the Feb 15 meteor over Russia that did a lot of damage. See wikapedia - search on russian meteor for lots of good data. That was followed by fireballs and/or meteors over japan, Indonesia, Australia, New Zealand, England and California. That was followed by the near miss asteriod like a shot over the bow of the earth that prompted U.S. congressional talks about how to deal with asteroids. That waw followed by March 10-20 by the Pan Starrs comet that I saw a photograph posted by NASA to have a companion object in it's coma. That was in front of it's path close to it's head.  Hardly a piece breaking off. And this was the anniversary of Hale Bopps with it's photographed pic of the companion object. That was followed all done by April 2013 by fireball and/or meteors sightings from Vermont to Florida with the biggest density along the Ohio basin down to the virginias - the belly of the beast which is the area where bpearthwatch claims Ison will fly over with it's huge trail of largish objects which seems to be defying the calculated timing. 01:56:00TiDo Witnessesnospade aliens,ufo,jesus,second coming,two witnessesNEW Revelations Mysteries Unsealed - The Two Witnesses The audio on this was messed up so here is a youtube link:http://youtu.be/3vWDCm_ZXcA This 2 hour broadhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/16/revelations-11-continued-rev-12-womanfathersun-incarnate-tidoChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/16/revelations-11-continued-rev-12-womanfathersun-incarnate-tido/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/16/revelations-11-continued-rev-12-womanfathersun-incarnate-tidoThu, 16 Jan 2014 02:00:00 GMTRevelations 11 continued, Rev 12 Woman=Father(Sun) incarnate Ti&DoHere is a segment from a post below it: Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. The ONE who is doing the birthing is depicted here: Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. The sun is not only a depiction of the Great Light source, light in ALL ways that SHE has wrapped around her (clothed with), but also represents the Father while the moon, as a tool and reflector of the suns light being her vehicle, the female mother. Ti always told Do she was to "get him started" and after that said she would "go back". When she said this Do always wondered what that meant as Ti didn't give any further details. He couldn't imagine that she meant she would be going back to her human vehicle's family. When her vehicle expired by becoming overcome with what the doctors called cancer, that Do said was the response of the vehicle to Ti's Mind that "burned out her vehicle", he knew what she meant. She came with him to birth him to his next station of bringing the students through their birth canal/metamorphosis, which is what the Rev 6:2 reference to "bow" really depicts, not what many Christians say it means as a bow as in bow and arrow, a weapon of war. The Next Level has no need to use human weapons though they allow humans to do some of the house cleaning of weeds (tares) in their waring. Here is a post of a bunch of questions a bible student asked me to answer about the Two Witnesses: http://sawyerhg.wordpress.com/2014/01/15/revelation-11-two-witnesses-evidence-as-ti-and-do-of-heavens-gate-ufo-two/ 01:57:00TiDo Witnessesnospade aliens,ufo,jesus,second coming,two witnessesHere is a segment from a post below it: Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught uphttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/13/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesusChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/13/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesus/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/13/ison-nirabu-ufo-space-aliens-7-angels-tifatherwoman-dojesusMon, 13 Jan 2014 02:00:00 GMTISON Nirabu ufo space aliens 7 Angels Ti(Father/Woman) Do(Jesus)Re: ISON - Through the examination of youtube channel's bpearthwatch videos and what I know about Ti and Do and what I see in the historic records to include Jesus prophecy in the Book of Revelations, ISON appears to be related to the 3rd woe. Each "woe" was actually an EXCLAMATION with trumpets 5, 6 and 7 that come before the WOES. It appears to me that the 7th trumpet was being sounded, which is a stage of communication by thoughts. words, ideas, understandings regarding the reality of the Next Physical Evolutionary Level Above Human and Their agenda which has global reach that suggests Their truth, relative to all prophecies. Certain information that would reveal hidden truths expressed with the 7th angel's sounding in Rev 11. I may be wrong but as best I can tell the National Geographics channel, "Final Report: Heaven's Gate" was just such a global wide announcement that strongly suggested even in it's byline that the Heaven's Gate effort was the so called "second coming" of Jesus., his "Father" and the 24 elder students (saints), though it's first of two phases coordinated with each harvest. That documentary didn't need to say a lot. Just by stating in no uncertain terms that this might have been the second coming should have stimulated those looking for Jesus return, to at the very least "consider" it then or later as calamities unfold or they are casting judgement over themselves as to who they want to be in allegiance to - The Next Level Above Human as spoken "plainly and boldly" about by Ti & Do or Mammon (humanism) in all it's forms. So ISON I believe is the start of the 7 angels with vials depicted in Rev 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. 01:56:00TiDo Witnessesnospade aliens,ufo,jesus,second coming,two witnessesRe: ISON - Through the examination of youtube channel's bpearthwatch videos and what I know about Ti and Do and what I see in the historic records to include Jehttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/06/admiral-byrds-194647-expedition-to-antarctica-attacked-by-ufosChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/06/admiral-byrds-194647-expedition-to-antarctica-attacked-by-ufos/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2014/01/06/admiral-byrds-194647-expedition-to-antarctica-attacked-by-ufosMon, 06 Jan 2014 02:00:00 GMTAdmiral Byrd's 1946/47 expedition to Antarctica attacked by UFO'sStarted a talk that was broadcast on coast to coast that they described as: 1) A 2006 Russian documentary recently translated to English reveals new information about a US Navy Antarctica expedition in 1946/47 headed by Admiral Byrd that consisted of the USS Philippine Sea aircraft carrier and other smaller ships that shot at and then were shot at and sufferred a lost ship and a bunch of  casualities. Byrd was published saying that Task Force 68 had encountered a new enemy that “could fly from pole to pole at incredible speeds.” The documentary goes on to talk about the Nazi's who fled from the lost war presumably headed to this Antartica base but got held up in Argentina, quoting a Nazi general as saying he had found a "shangrila" for the furher which smacks of the earilier Admiral Byrd expedition report of finding such a haven in the inner earth.  2) An imposter "ody" using the name Tmmody is a debunker of all things Ti and Do and Space Alien and Spirits without evidence who doesn't know, by immating an "ody" (the name extension given to students by Ti and Do) is like Paul of Tarsus pretending to be an "apostle" - also an assigned position, though Paul believed in Jesus. So he heard Ti on an old audio tape talking about her eye removal, diagnosied by the doctor in the hospital as cancer, say she was not going to die but if she did she could just take another vehicle. This tim thought because she did die and didn't take another vehicle it proves she was not who she said she was. I pointed out that they had said a number of things that they later changed, even in the beginning that didn't phase the hard core students which I guess I was since changes didn't phase me either. 01:57:00TiDo Witnessesnospade aliens,ufo,jesus,second coming,two witnessesStarted a talk that was broadcast on coast to coast that they described as: 1) A 2006 Russian documentary recently translated to English reveals new informatiohttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/16/rev21s-holy-citymystery-planet-looking-craft-seen-by-nasa-ison-part-2Christianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/16/rev21s-holy-citymystery-planet-looking-craft-seen-by-nasa-ison-part-2/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/16/rev21s-holy-citymystery-planet-looking-craft-seen-by-nasa-ison-part-2Mon, 16 Dec 2013 02:00:00 GMTRev.21's Holy city=Mystery planet looking craft seen by NASA & Ison part 2 This episode continues from the last one re: ISON in that Rev 21 is deciphered. New Heaven and New Earth is referring to the New Abode of the members of the Evolutionary Level Above Human, whose cloaked spacecraft is the size of the specs given later in chapter 21 approx. 1363 miles square which is interestingly the size of the planet pluto and may have some size comparison with the object allegedly leaked by four NASA employees who subsequently were fired, photographed as following behind ISON which looks like an Armada and/or a debris trail that in part is being rained on the sun as we speak and each time we see an Ison object go into the sun, we see an immedieate and huge flare shoot out from the sun that can't help but look planned and even given as a photo op. This object that bpearthwatch youtube site is calling Hercubus, which I don't know that meaning of nor agree with the host of that sights ideas about God does do some good work it seems though he may be a leak designed by a gov't agency as there is an interest in informing the more interested of the pubic to the many things being witnessed in the literal heavens that are blowing the minds of everyone in the know. In any case if this pic is genuine it is likley the "holy city", the one that does not have it's foundation on the Earth sposken of as the new jerusalem which was moved from the middle east of 2000 years ago as Jesus indicated. Ti and Do created a movie script in 1985 that showed Pluto to be a spacecraft that was hollow and was filled with labs. I suspect what we are seeing as ISON are the seven angels with vials/bowls who are to begin delivering their  "medicine" in the form of plagues to some humans and geographies. 02:00:00TiDo WitnessesnoJesus,Extraterrestrial,Alien,Evolutionary,Ti and doThis episode continues from the last one re: ISON in that Rev 21 is deciphered. New Heaven and New Earth is referring to the New Abode of the members of the Ehttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/12/comet-ison-in-revelationsChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/12/comet-ison-in-revelations/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/12/comet-ison-in-revelationsThu, 12 Dec 2013 02:00:00 GMTComet ISON in RevelationsThis episode shows some evidence that what is called comet ISON is not a comet at all but is an Armada of spacecrafts from the "Kingdom of God/Heaven" with the one called Jesus at the helm in the second phase of the "second coming", the first phase as associated with the first fruits harvest of Rev 14 that was by coming incarnate, with His Father, in the task of the Rev 11 Two Witnesses in 1975, coined by the media as the UFO Two in the names of Bo and Peep, to gather the firstfruits. Then they went into the wilderness to begin to overcome all their human behaviors and ways to be "born of spirit", a soul birth that required capturing human vehicles prepared for them. Bo and Peep during the overcoming period changed their names to Do and Ti, where Ti was the Father with Jesus incarnate this time in a female human vehicle to help  get her Son started in his task on the Throne to birth the liter she gave him 2000 years ago. (Rev 12). The Ti left by the earth swallowing her body an expression meaning "death" and Do finished the task after getting a visit from two small white looking beings who were witnessed by three students just as John and James and Peter witnessed two being    when Jesus took them up the mountain and from that visit got confirmation of his exit plan. The story because known internationally as the Heaven's Gate cult's mass suicide but it was nothing like any of the other cult suicides. They left a great deal of proof that they really were willingly laying down their human bodies for Do and Ti and the Next Level. ISON is ushering in the Seven Angels with vials in Rev 16.   02:01:00TiDo WitnessesnoLucifer,Satan,Jesus,Alien,SpiritThis episode shows some evidence that what is called comet ISON is not a comet at all but is an Armada of spacecrafts from the "Kingdom of God/Heaven" with thehttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/11/audio-tape-of-ti-and-do-from-may-9-1985Christianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/11/audio-tape-of-ti-and-do-from-may-9-1985/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/11/audio-tape-of-ti-and-do-from-may-9-1985Wed, 11 Dec 2013 02:00:00 GMTAudio Tape of Ti and Do from May 9 1985 The following is an unedited recording of a meeting given by those known as Ti and Do on May 9th 1985 to those who remained in their "overcoming of all humaness classroom". It was recorded in Dallas, Texas in a property the group was leasing near White Rock Lake. It is interesting to note that Ti left her vehicle on June 19th 1985. I, Sawyer, known in the classroom as Swyody was present at the meeting. Ti and Do proved to be the return of the ones called The Father and Jesus, and before that Jehovah and Moses having returned with both incarnate this time for the harvest time fulfilling the prophecies of the Revelations Two Witnesses. Ti was the Revelations 12 "woman" who exited her physical body as planned before the birthings was complete as Do as her "son" was to move up to the role of "parent" termed "Father" to their litter of returning "saints" and twenty four elders as depicted in Revelations chapter 4-6. The prophesied "killing" of the Two Witnesses was actually not a literal "killing" as the Greek word "apokteino" means "take away from, remove, take off of thus "slay or kill" in any way, not absolutely "kill". The translators however followed the line of translation to "kill" with the addition of words to justify that interpretation. Ti and Do were shot down by the "press" in October of 1975. The full interpretation of the Book of Revelations will be available on the blog, sawyerhg.wordpress.com These two have fulfilled most all the prophecies of Jesus and Daniel and Zecharia and the Book of Revelations in all shapes and forms. Sawyer has also documented that we are in the time period of the 7th Angel's sounding and the Third Woe which manifest this past Feb-April of 2013 and is also including the 1st angel's pouring out of the "medicine" vial. 00:54:00TiDo WitnessesnoTi and Do,Jesus,Alien,UFO,ChristianThe following is an unedited recording of a meeting given by those known as Ti and Do on May 9th 1985 to those who remained in their "overcoming of all humaneshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/09/jesus-an-evolutionarily-above-space-alien-et--rev-11-explained-part-3Atheismhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/09/jesus-an-evolutionarily-above-space-alien-et--rev-11-explained-part-3/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/09/jesus-an-evolutionarily-above-space-alien-et--rev-11-explained-part-3Mon, 09 Dec 2013 02:00:00 GMTJesus an Evolutionarily Above Space Alien ET - Rev 11 Explained part 3This is part 3 of a word by word NEW practical, realisitc translation/interpretation of Revelation Chapter 11 that embodies the role of the Two Witnesses that is apparant Ti and Do fulfilled as the one who was the Father and Son returned as the first phase (incarnate undercover like a thief) of the overall termed "second coming of Jesus", where the second and last phase, each associated with a harvest of souls they prepared from the start of the current civilization, will be with Do and the firstfruit "saints" the 42 students who layed down their lives as brides for the groom that is also depicted in Rev chapter 11 return with their Next Level new "clean pure (white)" bodies awarded them for graduating that will be seen as an entire series of comets with unusual behavior brought to a finale as each human decides (judges themselves) what to believe and what not to believe. These are comprehensive re-translations and re-interpretations so often don't get more than a verse or two with each 2 hour broadcast. 02:00:00TiDo WitnessesnoJesus,Extraterrestrial,Alien,Evolutionary,Ti and doThis is part 3 of a word by word NEW practical, realisitc translation/interpretation of Revelation Chapter 11 that embodies the role of the Two Witnesses that ihttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/04/jesus-an-evolutionarily-above-space-alien-et-rev-11-explained-part-2Christianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/04/jesus-an-evolutionarily-above-space-alien-et-rev-11-explained-part-2/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/12/04/jesus-an-evolutionarily-above-space-alien-et-rev-11-explained-part-2Wed, 04 Dec 2013 02:00:00 GMTJesus an Evolutionarily Above Space Alien ET Rev 11 Explained Part 2Continued retranslation and reinterpretation of Rev 11 verse for verse, word for word looking at the greek origins and related verse references as part of series addressing the many things Christians have been taught are reasons Do couldn't  be the return of Jesus, that frankly I punch holes through using many verse references. 02:02:00TiDo WitnessesnoTi and Do,Jesus,Alien,UFO,ChristianContinued retranslation and reinterpretation of Rev 11 verse for verse, word for word looking at the greek origins and related verse references as part of seriehttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/29/jesus-an-evolutionarily-above-space-alien-et--rev-11-explained-part-1Atheismhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/29/jesus-an-evolutionarily-above-space-alien-et--rev-11-explained-part-1/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/29/jesus-an-evolutionarily-above-space-alien-et--rev-11-explained-part-1Fri, 29 Nov 2013 03:00:00 GMTJesus an Evolutionarily Above Space Alien ET - Rev 11 Explained part 1This  episode had technical problems again but only during the first 10 minutes. For the remaining 80 minutes Sawyer does a verse by verse, word by word re-translation and re-interpretation of part of Revelations chapter 11 Two Witnesses, but was only able to get to 4 verses. Subsequent shows will continue with this format but the list to date of the major Christian objections to Ti and Do being the "second coming" and/or Rev 11 Two Witnesses are listed below: 1) The Seventy weeks of Daniel's prophecy hasn't occurred yet. 2) None of the Seven Angels with Trumpet events have occurred and the Two Witnesses are in the midst of the 6th Angel with Trumpet 3) They didn't come as lightning shines from east to the west as in Matthew chapter 24 states. 4) In one instance Do suggested he was Jesus and Jesus said not to believe anyone who came "in his name" 5) Israel has to be restored first. 6) Jesus doesn't come incarnate - It's a spiritual realm and incarnate is a Hindu word 7) The woman in Rev 12 represents the church 8) Revelations is symbolic so can't be figured out until he comes 9) Ti and Do were new agers believing in reincarnation and Ti was an astrologer 10) Ti and Do said they came on a UFO 11) The Two Witnesses are killed in the street and 3 days later ascend into heaven 12) Do and his followers killed themselves - a mortal sin - Thou shalt not murder. 13) Applewhite was a homosexual 14) He returned when he rose from the dead 2000 years ago. 15) The Two Witnesses are Moses and Elijah or Enoch and Moses or Enoch and Elijah 16) The Church leaders would have known about it first. 17) The Two Witnesse represent a state of mind not individuals 01:53:00TiDo WitnessesnoJesus,Ti and do,Revelation,Two Witnesses,Second ComingThis  episode had technical problems again but only during the first 10 minutes. For the remaining 80 minutes Sawyer does a verse by verse, word by word re-tranhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/25/jesus-an-evolutionarily-above-space-alien-etAtheismhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/25/jesus-an-evolutionarily-above-space-alien-et/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/25/jesus-an-evolutionarily-above-space-alien-etMon, 25 Nov 2013 01:00:00 GMTJesus an Evolutionarily Above Space Alien ETThis episode explores the evidence that the historic person named Jesus was in fact Above Human, and Above Space Alien, but still a physical Being from a many membered corporate like organization that build planets into "gardens" to grow new members upon. This individual as a Captain (Do as in "doe") is accompanied by his Admiral (Ti, as in tea) with a crew of student apprentises all arrived in the so called UFO crashes that mostly occurred in the U.S. Southwest in the 1940-50's willfully sacrificing their current physical bodies knowing upon completion of their task they would each be issued a new one and one that is a better model provided they graduate their 12th grade in the human evolutionary level of life according to the qualifications of the Admiral (Father and Jehovah before that) and Captain (Jesus and Moses before that, with a new name as taking a new body) who work as a team to bring the students up to Their starndards and direction.00:48:00TiDo WitnessesnoJesus,Extraterrestrial,Alien,Evolutionary,Ti and doThis episode explores the evidence that the historic person named Jesus was in fact Above Human, and Above Space Alien, but still a physical Being from a many mhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/21/is-there-equivilent-joy-of-human-sex-procreation-in-the-next-levelAtheismhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/21/is-there-equivilent-joy-of-human-sex-procreation-in-the-next-level/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/21/is-there-equivilent-joy-of-human-sex-procreation-in-the-next-levelThu, 21 Nov 2013 02:30:00 GMTIs there equivilent joy of human sex & procreation in the Next LevelThis episode begins with some talk about the time spent in the wyoming and texas wilderness for three years living outdoors communally, but got distracted into a little talk about comet ISON and then spent most of the broadcast responding to a chat room question seeking to understand if there was a Next Level equivilent to sex and procreation and whether or not Next Level Members experienced Joy in their equivilent form of having offspring. Ti and Do did express that upon return of the student body who graduated there would be a celebration that all members of the Next Level would be present for. They also said that those who failed to complete their task of overcoming the human evolutionary level would be "embarrassed" as they realized how they had allowed their consciousness to be interfered with while working through the human vehicle prepared for them to metamorphosize through compared to how much they would be gaining in graduating to adult Next Level Membership and the environment and sense of family they have with the other members. I, sawyer did experience that "family" in my 19 years with Do (10 with Ti) and the student body and it was quite phenomenal but not in human family ways as it lacked negativity or gossip or fault finding or competitions or jealousies. Ti and Do did say they would all be joyous at our (student) graduation. Ti had said that all who came would return. This is discussed some. Also this brought up where the student body came from which included the "briefing" Ti said she "remembered" shortly before she exited her vehicle in 1985. 01:31:00TiDo WitnessesnoLucifer,Satan,Jesus,Alien,SpiritThis episode begins with some talk about the time spent in the wyoming and texas wilderness for three years living outdoors communally, but got distracted intohttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/20/audio-tape-of-ti-and-do-from-feb-14-1984Christianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/20/audio-tape-of-ti-and-do-from-feb-14-1984/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/20/audio-tape-of-ti-and-do-from-feb-14-1984Wed, 20 Nov 2013 02:00:00 GMTAudio Tape of Ti and Do from Feb 14 1984The following is an unedited recording of a meeting given by those known as Ti and Do on Feb 14 1984 to somewhere under 40 remaining students in their "overcoming of all humaness classroom". It was recorded in Dallas, Texas in a property Ti and Do were leasing near the downtown. I, Sawyer, known in the classroom as Swyody was present at the meeting. Ti and Do proved to be the return of the ones called The Father and Jesus, and before that Jehovah and Moses having returned with both incarnate this time for the harvest time fulfilling the prophecies of the Revelations Two Witnesses. Ti was the Revelations 12 "woman" who exited her physical body as planned before the birthings was complete as Do as her "son" was to move up to the role of "parent" termed "Father" to their litter of returning "saints" and twenty four elders as depicted in Revelations chapter 4-6. The prophesied "killing" of the Two Witnesses was actually not a literal "killing" as the Greek word "apokteino" means "take away from, remove, take off of thus "slay or kill" in any way, not absolutely "kill". The translators however followed the line of translation to "kill" with the addition of words to justify that interpretation. Ti and Do were shot down by the "press" in October of 1975. The full interpretation of the Book of Revelations will be available on the blog, sawyerhg.wordpress.com These two have fulfilled most all the prophecies of Jesus and Daniel and Zecharia and the Book of Revelations in all shapes and forms. Sawyer has also documented that we are in the time period of the 7th Angel's sounding and the Third Woe which manifest this past Feb-April of 2013 and is also including the 1st angel's pouring out of the "medicine" vial. 01:58:00TiDo WitnessesnoTi and Do,Jesus,Alien,UFO,ChristianThe following is an unedited recording of a meeting given by those known as Ti and Do on Feb 14 1984 to somewhere under 40 remaining students in their "overcomihttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/13/audio-tape-of-ti-and-do-from-may-9-1985Christianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/13/audio-tape-of-ti-and-do-from-may-9-1985/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2013/11/13/audio-tape-of-ti-and-do-from-may-9-1985Wed, 13 Nov 2013 02:00:00 GMTAudio Tape of Ti and Do from May 9 1985 The following is an unedited recording of a meeting given by those known as Ti and Do on May 9th 1985 to those who remained in their "overcoming of all humaness classroom". It was recorded in Dallas, Texas in a property the group was leasing near White Rock Lake. It is interesting to note that Ti left her vehicle on June 19th 1985. I, Sawyer, known in the classroom as Swyody was present at the meeting. Ti and Do proved to be the return of the ones called The Father and Jesus, and before that Jehovah and Moses having returned with both incarnate this time for the harvest time fulfilling the prophecies of the Revelations Two Witnesses. Ti was the Revelations 12 "woman" who exited her physical body as planned before the birthings was complete as Do as her "son" was to move up to the role of "parent" termed "Father" to their litter of returning "saints" and twenty four elders as depicted in Revelations chapter 4-6. The prophesied "killing" of the Two Witnesses was actually not a literal "killing" as the Greek word "apokteino" means "take away from, remove, take off of thus "slay or kill" in any way, not absolutely "kill". The translators however followed the line of translation to "kill" with the addition of words to justify that interpretation. Ti and Do were shot down by the "press" in October of 1975. The full interpretation of the Book of Revelations will be available on the blog, sawyerhg.wordpress.com These two have fulfilled most all the prophecies of Jesus and Daniel and Zecharia and the Book of Revelations in all shapes and forms. Sawyer has also documented that we are in the time period of the 7th Angel's sounding and the Third Woe which manifest this past Feb-April of 2013 and is also including the 1st angel's pouring out of the "medicine" vial. 01:00:00TiDo WitnessesnoTi and Do,Jesus,Alien,UFO,ChristianThe following is an unedited recording of a meeting given by those known as Ti and Do on May 9th 1985 to those who remained in their "overcoming of all humaneshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/09/16/obama-tido-fathersonjesus-revelations-11612-nettlesapplewhitehorse-ufo-two-witnessesParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/09/16/obama-tido-fathersonjesus-revelations-11612-nettlesapplewhitehorse-ufo-two-witnesses/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/09/16/obama-tido-fathersonjesus-revelations-11612-nettlesapplewhitehorse-ufo-two-witnessesThu, 16 Sep 2010 02:00:00 GMTObama & Ti/Do Father/Son(Jesus) Revelations 11/6/12 Nettles/Applewhite(Horse) UFO Two WitnessesMore on Obama nation (not anti or pro Obama) - black horse in rev. 6. More on dreams: w/Do and the other possibly Tll/Lgg w/ partner. More on how ALL religiosity and Spirituality, though have aspects of positivity but are at this time huge stumbling blocks toward acheiving our highest human potential of considering application for a job working on Do's team. It is application. Religion and even alien based spirituality, peace & love and thinking we are growing from talking about diety and awarenesses and use of music mixed with so called inspirational devotion is actually a powerful "drug" that induces a sense of well being amidst a terrible terrible human predatory self centered illusion of grandeur. It's nero fiddling while rome burns scenerio. We pay taxes and give service to our govn't so they can rape, pillage and profit and lord over others in the US and everywhere else they can. The "weeds" have taken over the garden and rendered most of the plants grateful that they have. Domination by weeds is the brainwashed human "dream". The religious and spiritual are all near completely brainwashed against the Level Above Human. Atheists are at least honest in knowing the religoius and spiritual aren't awake, though many then buy their "science=their god" view for yet another illusion. Stephen Hawkins appears quite logical as he and others make money on talking about whether humans have purpose and how a universe can come from nothing. Fools when the real info has already been provided, though bastardized into religion thus abhorant to non-religious. All these things are answered in a plain and clear way by what Ti and Do brought and did over the last 7000 yrs we know about. It won't be many years until the recycling of other planet's surface/population hits the next gear. I don't look forward to such, though in a sense I do. I'm not mad at life nor mad that I don't have more sucess by human standards, so leaving, though painful to think about will be good.01:00:00TiDo Witnessesnoatheist,Heaven,God,Jesus,Two WitnessesMore on Obama nation (not anti or pro Obama) - black horse in rev. 6. More on dreams: w/Do and the other possibly Tll/Lgg w/ partner. More on how ALL religiosithttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/08/05/jesus-persecuter-saulpaul-forced-to-embody-first-luciferian-antichrist-todays-christian-churchChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/08/05/jesus-persecuter-saulpaul-forced-to-embody-first-luciferian-antichrist-todays-christian-church/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/08/05/jesus-persecuter-saulpaul-forced-to-embody-first-luciferian-antichrist-todays-christian-churchThu, 05 Aug 2010 02:00:00 GMTJesus persecuter Saul/Paul forced to embody first Luciferian antichrist today's Christian churchThat's right. Saul of Tarsus who then took the name Paul was hunting down Jesus disciples as a military Roman employed Jew when he was struck down by a literally blinding light (laser) from a Luciferian "space alien" spacecraft and told it was Jesus doing it. This was days after Jesus was witnessed by dozens ascending physically into a "cloud of light" (spacecraft hiding in cloud) that Jesus warned would happen - "many will come IN MY NAME" - The name he used was Jesus and that's what this vision/voice said was his name. Thus this was the first appearance of the supreme AntiChrist and of course was the founding of the Holy Romam "Catholic" empire(church). Even the protestants that broke away still mostly use Paul's letters as their "creed" while almost all nearly ignoring 90% of what Jesus was quoted to have said and done. This is why "religion" is a "killer of souls" as it distorts what really happened and instead creates their own version thus when the return of the same "family of HOLY mind occurs, they are glued to misinformation so miss it and even hate it (ignore it). Those who teach by Paul are therefore engaging in the only unforgivable (by the kingdom of God) "sin" by teaching others to ignore the core message that can only be found in Jesus total package of words and deeds to include "giving our life(will)" to "Our Father". We can not judge the souls who engage in this but we must give them a chance to change. Ti and Do show a ton of evidence of being the "second coming" as it's come to be called - really the 6th coming during this current civilization on earth. The rev 11 Two Witnesses and the Rev 12 WOMAN(Ti) giving birth to MALE(Do) and the Rev 6 "white horse" (applewhite=name of human horse(vehicle/body)) Do took. I will share lots of info to back this up.02:00:00TiDo WitnessesnoJesus,Lucifer,antichrist,Two Witnesses,HeavenThat's right. Saul of Tarsus who then took the name Paul was hunting down Jesus disciples as a military Roman employed Jew when he was struck down by a literallhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/07/29/jesus-persecuter-saulpaul-forced-to-embody-first-luciferian-antichrist-todays-christian-churchChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/07/29/jesus-persecuter-saulpaul-forced-to-embody-first-luciferian-antichrist-todays-christian-church/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/07/29/jesus-persecuter-saulpaul-forced-to-embody-first-luciferian-antichrist-todays-christian-churchThu, 29 Jul 2010 02:00:00 GMTJesus persecuter Saul/Paul forced to embody first Luciferian antichrist today's Christian churchThat's right. Saul of Tarsus who then took the name Paul was hunting down Jesus disciples as a military Roman employed Jew when he was struck down by a literally blinding light (laser) from a Luciferian "space alien" spacecraft and told it was Jesus doing it. This was days after Jesus was witnessed by dozens ascending physically into a "cloud of light" (spacecraft hiding in cloud) that Jesus warned would happen - "many will come IN MY NAME" - The name he used was Jesus and that's what this vision/voice said was his name. Thus this was the first appearance of the supreme AntiChrist and of course was the founding of the Holy Romam "Catholic" empire(church). Even the protestants that broke away still mostly use Paul's letters as their "creed" while almost all nearly ignoring 90% of what Jesus was quoted to have said and done. This is why "religion" is a "killer of souls" as it distorts what really happened and instead creates their own version thus when the return of the same "family of HOLY mind occurs, they are glued to misinformation so miss it and even hate it (ignore it). Those who teach by Paul are therefore engaging in the only unforgivable (by the kingdom of God) "sin" by teaching others to ignore the core message that can only be found in Jesus total package of words and deeds to include "giving our life(will)" to "Our Father". We can not judge the souls who engage in this but we must give them a chance to change. Ti and Do show a ton of evidence of being the "second coming" as it's come to be called - really the 6th coming during this current civilization on earth. The rev 11 Two Witnesses and the Rev 12 WOMAN(Ti) giving birth to MALE(Do) and the Rev 6 "white horse" (applewhite=name of human horse(vehicle/body)) Do took. I will share lots of info to back this up.02:00:00TiDo WitnessesnoJesus,Lucifer,antichrist,Two Witnesses,HeavenThat's right. Saul of Tarsus who then took the name Paul was hunting down Jesus disciples as a military Roman employed Jew when he was struck down by a literallhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/06/24/tido-fathersonjesus-revelations-1112-incarnatenettlesapplewhitehorse-ufo-two-witnessesParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/06/24/tido-fathersonjesus-revelations-1112-incarnatenettlesapplewhitehorse-ufo-two-witnesses/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/06/24/tido-fathersonjesus-revelations-1112-incarnatenettlesapplewhitehorse-ufo-two-witnessesThu, 24 Jun 2010 02:00:00 GMTTi/Do Father/Son(Jesus) Revelations 11/12 incarnate=Nettles/Applewhite(horse) UFO Two WitnessesSawyer here, a Ti/Do student for 19 years living with them in the UFO "cult of cults" speaks about who these two are. They came from outer space, crashing some primitive spacecrafts to announce their arrival and get out of their current physical bodies they wear as "suits of clothes" over evolutionary strata/or level above human MINDS, termed by religions as "holy spirit(s)". Religions are ALL illusions that capture souls that could otherwise have option to become a member of their crew, the reason the Earth was created, one of many, many "garden like" environments throughout THEIR Universe that we know next to nothing about as they can flip all our physics on it's ear with a snap of the fingers and are starting to do so. All humans are at best potential children. No one gets anything for nothing. All must prove their worthiness to apply to be on their crew. They want no slackers or bottom feeders. They don't need any of us. There is no Heaven's Gate or related organization that has the authority of Ti and Do, thus no donations, no books to buy or slogans to memorize or techniques to acheive enlightenment. If you are not willing to change (real meaning of repent) your MIND - think differently, expand vision beyond Earth you have no chance to live beyond the earth body grave and then the spirit body grave which is soon to come. Soon could be many years or tomorrow, but the Earth must experience recycling of it's surface to eliminate all signs of what humans call civilization so a new crop of those who believe in Ti and Do before they die can be given a new chance to see the real evolutionary level above human as it really is, as opposed to the way religions make it seem. If you want to "live" then in your privacy ask to be of service to Ti and Do and then share The information they brought with others to begin bringing forth "fruit". Not looking for believers to create a new church. Don't need to know who believes and what. Just share the info and move on.02:01:00TiDo Witnessesnotwo witnesses,revelations,end times,last days,judgement daySawyer here, a Ti/Do student for 19 years living with them in the UFO "cult of cults" speaks about who these two are. They came from outer space, crashing somehttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/05/20/christians-including-new-agers-are-an-anti-christ-luciferian-space-alien-spin-of-jesus-messageParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/05/20/christians-including-new-agers-are-an-anti-christ-luciferian-space-alien-spin-of-jesus-message/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/05/20/christians-including-new-agers-are-an-anti-christ-luciferian-space-alien-spin-of-jesus-messageThu, 20 May 2010 02:00:00 GMTChristians, including new agers are an Anti-Christ Luciferian space alien spin of Jesus' messageChristians are just the latest/biggest spin, but all the religions stemmed from the same response to an incarnate member from what is really an Physical/Mental many membered evolutionary kingdom that is as far above human biologicially, technologically, mentally, intellectually, emotionally and even spiritually as are the human species of mammal above all non-human species of animal and animal above planet and planet above mineral forms of life. Level is just a word to describe a complete strata or chasm of difference. This way of thinking was some of what Jesus said, upon his souls return (as he said not to believe anyone who comes in his name because he knew he would not be bringing that same body back again, as it served it's purpose to in the end demonstrate his physicality and "normal" mode of travel - ascending to and from the physical spacecraft hiding and appearing to onlookers only as a "cloud of light" aka UFO. Space Aliens stem from those on Earth in past civilizations, (next level garden experiments to grow souls by their own voluntary desire with the close tending by the master gardeners) and/or from relatively close planets that were once such gardens, who flunked out of the training program to graduate the human condition and are allowed to circulate around the Earth at various times to provide a full range of options to those human plants that are seeded with a "soul seed" to see for what they are and decide whether they want more. Ti and Do were the same souls that came 2000 yrs ago as Father and Son, the Revelations 11 prophesized Two witnesses, a woman and man, from Revelations 12, Ti=The Father and the saints who died believing in Jesus who came by crashing their spacecrafts in the 40/50's.02:00:00TiDo Witnessesnoufo,space alien,ti and do,jesus,mosesChristians are just the latest/biggest spin, but all the religions stemmed from the same response to an incarnate member from what is really an Physical/Mentalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/05/13/ufo-space-aliens-and-humans-vs-evolutionary-level-above-human-and-ti-and-do-of-heavens-gateParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/05/13/ufo-space-aliens-and-humans-vs-evolutionary-level-above-human-and-ti-and-do-of-heavens-gate/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/05/13/ufo-space-aliens-and-humans-vs-evolutionary-level-above-human-and-ti-and-do-of-heavens-gateThu, 13 May 2010 02:00:00 GMTufo space aliens and humans vs Evolutionary Level Above Human and Ti and Do of heaven's gateLots to share of my trip to south carolina, plus more info as to what's upcoming and how to deal with it.02:00:00TiDo Witnessesnoufo,space aliens,paranormal,spirituality,religionLots to share of my trip to south carolina, plus more info as to what's upcoming and how to deal with it.http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/04/29/ti-and-do-father-and-sonjesus-and-saints--childrenParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/04/29/ti-and-do-father-and-sonjesus-and-saints--children/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/04/29/ti-and-do-father-and-sonjesus-and-saints--childrenThu, 29 Apr 2010 02:00:00 GMTti and do = father and son(jesus) and saints = graduated (overcomer of mammalianism) children of godIn this broadcast I will share some new perspectives I feel I've been given on the Moses, children of Israel waring some 4000 years ago. Also will share my experiences in a road trip I just took to Texas and back where in San Antonio at my arrival there was a strange ufo sighting reported on NBC. Also, I've been conversing with someone who talks of the FEMA camp prospective that the govn't will be hearding us into camps as the Nazi's did the Jews. Though I'm saying that won't happen, it's not the same situation now. It's interesting how the religious are always a big leap behind the times. Also wanted to share that any returned Jesus Must bring "new information about the Kingdom of Heaven". I don't know of any jesus claimant that did this EXCEPT the real Two Witnesses, Ti and Do and I will share as many new things that they shared with us while I was their student for 19 years, much of which I have recalled better since returning to a degree of active studentship. Also want to share some about another religion book writer on onpoint radio this week who I tried to call into to say that "no religions are paths to god". The only path to God is a private one and to where the person asks to be in God's service in that privacy and continues to look for the signs of what that service will be. Religions are the number one killers of souls because of how they make themselves out to be the "path".02:00:00TiDo Witnessesnogod,jesus,space aliens,religion,spiritualityIn this broadcast I will share some new perspectives I feel I've been given on the Moses, children of Israel waring some 4000 years ago. Also will share my expehttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/04/08/tido-heavens-gate-jesus-moses-ufo-two-witnesses-noParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/04/08/tido-heavens-gate-jesus-moses-ufo-two-witnesses-no/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/04/08/tido-heavens-gate-jesus-moses-ufo-two-witnesses-noThu, 08 Apr 2010 02:00:00 GMTTiDo Heavens Gate Jesus Moses UFO Two Witnesses Not=religio-newage spiritual luciferian space alienTiDo Heavens Gate Jesus Elijah Moses Enoch Adam/Eve UFO Revelations chapters 11 and 12. UFO Two Witnesses two catchings away(raptures) in `1975 and 1994. Evolutionary Level Above Human aka Kingdom of God/Heaven. Physical many membered kingdom. Religions are #1 killer of souls. Ti an Do were/are non religio-newage spiritual luciferian space aliens. Second Coming of Jesus was Ti and Do, Father and Son team returning with their small group that were harvested/graduated from the human cocoon kingdom in a metamorphosis aka growing a soul implant into a viable power source for a the new body issue new members to the Next Level get upon graduation. Lucifer and Nephelim and/or annunaki never graduated. They were wayward children of god who went against kingdom of god in previous civilization on earth. Believers in Ti and Do may be given an opportunity to live again and work towards everlasting life. It's not easy like the religions promote to hook you to support and look to them. Reason being pope is being subject to potential prosecution. Antichrist first main manefestation=Saul/Paul of Tarsus egotist, non-jesus teacher. Maitreya is another word for enlightened "christ". Buddha, Islam, Judism, Jew, Christian, Paranormal supernatural Outer Space, NASA Satan, Earthquakes, Volcanos are all part of solar recycling. Global Warming can not be stopped by humans or space aliens but should still respect all life and all we use. All is a gift to humans. Allah, Nirvana, Utopia - Spirit Birth. Underground bases. Element 115-116 Bob Lazar documented. Angels and Devils(demons). Bible, Koran, Torah. Facsimili's of God's mission were Jim Jones and Jonestown, Solar Temple, etc. If there are familied involved they are not from Kingdom of God. jesus said he didn't come to bring peace but a proverbial sword, really a battle that cuts our human roots and makes our relatives tend to become our enemies as with anything that disuades us to not look to the creators of this planet anymore.02:00:00TiDo Witnessesnoparanormal,spiritual,ufo,religion,godTiDo Heavens Gate Jesus Elijah Moses Enoch Adam/Eve UFO Revelations chapters 11 and 12. UFO Two Witnesses two catchings away(raptures) in `1975 and 1994. Evoluthttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/03/04/the-real-jesus-do-applewhite-moses-elijah-enoch-ti-nettles-father-lord-god-vs-antichrist-ufo-aliensParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/03/04/the-real-jesus-do-applewhite-moses-elijah-enoch-ti-nettles-father-lord-god-vs-antichrist-ufo-aliens/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/03/04/the-real-jesus-do-applewhite-moses-elijah-enoch-ti-nettles-father-lord-god-vs-antichrist-ufo-aliensThu, 04 Mar 2010 04:30:00 GMTThe REAL Jesus Do Applewhite Moses Elijah Enoch Ti Nettles Father Lord God vs antiChrist UFO aliensI have so many examples of how the religious and spiritual are being led by the same artifical Luciferian space aliens unknowingly in many ways. This is not a condemnation of anyone as many in various spiriual and/or religous movements are doing the best they can, and athesists are also being taken for a ride. The undecided still have a chance but ignoring it all IS a decision to be among the soul dead. It's not something anyone does to us so there is no threats of eternal damnation but to think anyone is going to have bliss or nirvana or enlightenment or christing or bring about peace on earth or some heaven or utopia on earth IS living very much an illusion. Although it's very, very hard to look at Ti and Do and all they said and did, considering over 40 members of their group layed down their lives completely voluntarily (which I can easily prove was voluntary), and we have a hard time with that idea, is becasue it's not for us to take that kind of leap of faith in this lifetime. The general best we can do is to start to believe in Ti and Do and share that with others. The overcoming comes to play next time we are interfacing with a human vehicle after the Earth experiences some major recycling that will vanish the current civilization and will most likley escalated quickly headed by more and more earthquakes, etc, a big reason to get out of the cities as Jesus said, plus the cities are where the domestic and foreign terrororists largly seek to do their evil deeds. Ask the highest God who is as far away from earth as we can imagine OR ask Ti and Do if they are real and if so if they can be shown just how real they are.01:30:00TiDo WitnessesnoGod,religion,Jesus,ufo,antichristI have so many examples of how the religious and spiritual are being led by the same artifical Luciferian space aliens unknowingly in many ways. This is not a chttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/02/25/jesus-sees-most-christian-spiritual-teachers-as-antichrists-led-by-the-luciferian-ufo-space-aliensChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/02/25/jesus-sees-most-christian-spiritual-teachers-as-antichrists-led-by-the-luciferian-ufo-space-aliens/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/02/25/jesus-sees-most-christian-spiritual-teachers-as-antichrists-led-by-the-luciferian-ufo-space-aliensThu, 25 Feb 2010 03:00:00 GMTJesus sees most Christian & Spiritual teachers as antichrists led by the Luciferian UFO Space AliensThis is not an accusation against those who believe in ALL that Jesus taught as best they can understand and who have congregations looking to them for spiritual guidence UNLESS they also try to sheild their congregations from the exploration of all things so called spiritual or otherworldly or paranormal. It was Paul who condemned people that considered the study of the stars appealing and Paul was NOT a Jesus disciple. A disciple had to be able to physically "follow him" night and day wherever he went which was impossible after he left by way of a cloud of light. So Paul was at best a new believer. A new believer's ONLY task is to tell others about the representative from the Kingdom of Heaven, so the best Paul could do would have been to find out what Jesus told His disciples and share EXACTLY those things. Instead he built his own "body of believers"(church) evidenced by his letters and telling them to look to him. Sure he used the name Jesus but that was because he was captured by a Luciferian Space Alien who told him that's who he was, something Jesus would never had done. Had it been that easy to convert people why would Jesus waste his time and effort living "face to face" with those His Father gave to him to teach. This example of Paul was the first major co-opting of the Jesus mission stage. And we will see this now of course pertaining to the return of Jesus in the new names of Ti and Do as the Heaven's Gate that was the next phase in the overall Level Above Human creator kingdoms garden harvest of souls project. Thus there are NO new disciples of Ti and Do thus no new Heaven's Gate group is legitimate in any form at any time. Only those who had a personal physical relationship with Ti and/or Do and are active students to date are authorized to represent them to others. New believers should limit what they say about Ti and Do to what Ti and Do published and in the many tapes they left behind. Anything more is subject to Luciferian space alien distortions.02:00:00TiDo WitnessesnoJesus,Religion,Antichrist,second coming,GodThis is not an accusation against those who believe in ALL that Jesus taught as best they can understand and who have congregations looking to them for spirituahttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/02/18/jesus-sees-most-christian-spiritual-teachers-as-anChristianityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/02/18/jesus-sees-most-christian-spiritual-teachers-as-an/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/02/18/jesus-sees-most-christian-spiritual-teachers-as-anThu, 18 Feb 2010 03:00:00 GMTJesus sees most Christian & Spiritual teachers as antichrists led by the Luciferian UFO Space AliensThis show ended up being a type of listing of all the prophecies of a Jesus return fulfilled by Ti and Do: They include - 1)for every eye to see doesn't mean every eye will see, just every one will have the opportunity and Ti and Do had a global announcemnet as the UFO two for a year in 1975-6 and then in 1997 as Heaven's Gate. 2)For every knee to bow, again they come with authority. They don't beat around the bush and offer grandeous rewards for next to zero committment and effort as all the facsimili's do. 3)speaking plainly of the kingdom meant straight forward not mysticaL or in parables and stories. 4) Wearing sackcloth was simple clothing not from the court of kings or the rich and/or famous 5) face to face - jesus couldn't speak plainly of the Father if he wasn't face to face with us and this is always the way members are sent, even angels to talk our language for the most accurate interface possible as moses also said would be the way "he" returned. 6)with the clouds - meant from the physical and literal heaven's which included the sky but in referring to a cloud of light thus a travel device as jesus took his physical body into to depart, thus in todays terms a UFO. Ti and Do said they came from outer space and were here to fulfill bible prophecy. 7) Same requirements for discipleship - had to leave all behind even family. Yes very hard to do and very hard to understand but very jesus and even Moses as he left his wife and children to perform his mission for God. God takes care of those we leave behind. It's a matter of faith in God yet doing so as an excuse to run away from responsability would not at all be the same thing. But also was required to "deny self (give will to - "thy will be done", take up ones cross - prepared to die in belief telling others who hate hearing it and "follow him" - meant to go physically with them (father and Jesus or in this case Ti and Do). Can't do it without them with us physically to show us the way as they are the gate.02:00:00TiDo WitnessesnoJesus,Religion,Antichrist,second coming,GodThis show ended up being a type of listing of all the prophecies of a Jesus return fulfilled by Ti and Do: They include - 1)for every eye to see doesn't mean evhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/02/12/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alienParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/02/12/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alien/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/02/12/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alienFri, 12 Feb 2010 04:00:00 GMTTi & Do=Second Coming of Father & Jesus Evolutionary Level Above Human cloud=UFO Lucifer=Space AlienEverything true and real is becoming evident but only for most ardent seekers as ALL truthes are also being co-opted as they always have, as allowed by the Evolutionary Level Above Human, archaically termed The Kingdom of God/Heaven/Nirvana/Englightenment/Overcoming. Atheism IS today a belief in nothingness. Global Warming is natural and is being tounted as human created by those who either can't or won't give credit where credit is due. FACT: Human's, nor space aliens (according to their own admission) did not create any of what we term nature - the planets, the stars, the moons, the elements, the systems, the genetic structures, the electromagnetic force/energy that permeates and instructs ALL things according to their design and application within their overall environment that IS limited in scope. Humans ARE powerful, but ONLY in potential of what they can become IF they individucally choose to ASK the CREATOR CREW are most clearly represented historically by those identified by the names/titles as Adam, Enoch, Krishna, Moses, Buddha, Elijah, Jesus, Ti and Do not by the religions that formed from their incarnations but by their core teachings of Love of the Lord with ALL, but while not with us physically Love our neighbors as ourselves which helps us rise out of our instinctual self centered animal behaviors into a selfless - service to the CREATION through the last phyiscal incarnation of that MIND(holy spirit) from the Level Above Human, termed enlightenment, overcoming, samadi, etc. Meanwhile Space aliens and discarnate (dead humans) seek to influence alive humans into their service which don't seem altogether evil EXCEPT in how they propose that this enlightenment can be reached without that real connection with the CREATOR CREW's reps that we won't have if we don't look/search external to ourselves directing our ASKING often and application as best we can which Is then the God within part. It's not done for us. It's not automatic. It takes leaps of faith.02:00:00TiDo WitnessesnoUFO,Jesus,Ti and Do,Spirituality,ReligionEverything true and real is becoming evident but only for most ardent seekers as ALL truthes are also being co-opted as they always have, as allowed by the Evolhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/02/05/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alienParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/02/05/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alien/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/02/05/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alienFri, 05 Feb 2010 04:00:00 GMTTi & Do=Second Coming of Father & Jesus Evolutionary Level Above Human cloud=UFO Lucifer=Space AlienEverything true and real is becoming evident but only for most ardent seekers as ALL truthes are also being co-opted as they always have, as allowed by the Evolutionary Level Above Human, archaically termed The Kingdom of God/Heaven/Nirvana/Englightenment/Overcoming. Atheism IS today a belief in nothingness. Global Warming is natural and is being tounted as human created by those who either can't or won't give credit where credit is due. FACT: Human's, nor space aliens (according to their own admission) did not create any of what we term nature - the planets, the stars, the moons, the elements, the systems, the genetic structures, the electromagnetic force/energy that permeates and instructs ALL things according to their design and application within their overall environment that IS limited in scope. Humans ARE powerful, but ONLY in potential of what they can become IF they individucally choose to ASK the CREATOR CREW are most clearly represented historically by those identified by the names/titles as Adam, Enoch, Krishna, Moses, Buddha, Elijah, Jesus, Ti and Do not by the religions that formed from their incarnations but by their core teachings of Love of the Lord with ALL, but while not with us physically Love our neighbors as ourselves which helps us rise out of our instinctual self centered animal behaviors into a selfless - service to the CREATION through the last phyiscal incarnation of that MIND(holy spirit) from the Level Above Human, termed enlightenment, overcoming, samadi, etc. Meanwhile Space aliens and discarnate (dead humans) seek to influence alive humans into their service which don't seem altogether evil EXCEPT in how they propose that this enlightenment can be reached without that real connection with the CREATOR CREW's reps that we won't have if we don't look/search external to ourselves directing our ASKING often and application as best we can which Is then the God within part. It's not done for us. It's not automatic. It takes leaps of faith.02:00:00TiDo WitnessesnoUFO,Jesus,Ti and Do,Spirituality,ReligionEverything true and real is becoming evident but only for most ardent seekers as ALL truthes are also being co-opted as they always have, as allowed by the Evolhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/29/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alienParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/29/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alien/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/29/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alienFri, 29 Jan 2010 04:00:00 GMTTi & Do=Second Coming of Father & Jesus Evolutionary Level Above Human cloud=UFO Lucifer=Space AlienEverything true and real is becoming evident but only for most ardent seekers as ALL truthes are also being co-opted as they always have, as allowed by the Evolutionary Level Above Human, archaically termed The Kingdom of God/Heaven/Nirvana/Englightenment/Overcoming. Atheism IS today a belief in nothingness. Global Warming is natural and is being tounted as human created by those who either can't or won't give credit where credit is due. FACT: Human's, nor space aliens (according to their own admission) did not create any of what we term nature - the planets, the stars, the moons, the elements, the systems, the genetic structures, the electromagnetic force/energy that permeates and instructs ALL things according to their design and application within their overall environment that IS limited in scope. Humans ARE powerful, but ONLY in potential of what they can become IF they individucally choose to ASK the CREATOR CREW are most clearly represented historically by those identified by the names/titles as Adam, Enoch, Krishna, Moses, Buddha, Elijah, Jesus, Ti and Do not by the religions that formed from their incarnations but by their core teachings of Love of the Lord with ALL, but while not with us physically Love our neighbors as ourselves which helps us rise out of our instinctual self centered animal behaviors into a selfless - service to the CREATION through the last phyiscal incarnation of that MIND(holy spirit) from the Level Above Human, termed enlightenment, overcoming, samadi, etc. Meanwhile Space aliens and discarnate (dead humans) seek to influence alive humans into their service which don't seem altogether evil EXCEPT in how they propose that this enlightenment can be reached without that real connection with the CREATOR CREW's reps that we won't have if we don't look/search external to ourselves directing our ASKING often and application as best we can which Is then the God within part. It's not done for us. It's not automatic. It takes leaps of faith.02:00:00TiDo WitnessesnoUFO,Jesus,Ti and Do,Spirituality,ReligionEverything true and real is becoming evident but only for most ardent seekers as ALL truthes are also being co-opted as they always have, as allowed by the Evolhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/22/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alienParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/22/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alien/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/22/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alienFri, 22 Jan 2010 04:00:00 GMTTi & Do=Second Coming of Father & Jesus Evolutionary Level Above Human cloud=UFO Lucifer=Space AlienEverything true and real is becoming evident but only for most ardent seekers as ALL truthes are also being co-opted as they always have, as allowed by the Evolutionary Level Above Human, archaically termed The Kingdom of God/Heaven/Nirvana/Englightenment/Overcoming. Atheism IS today a belief in nothingness. Global Warming is natural and is being tounted as human created by those who either can't or won't give credit where credit is due. FACT: Human's, nor space aliens (according to their own admission) did not create any of what we term nature - the planets, the stars, the moons, the elements, the systems, the genetic structures, the electromagnetic force/energy that permeates and instructs ALL things according to their design and application within their overall environment that IS limited in scope. Humans ARE powerful, but ONLY in potential of what they can become IF they individucally choose to ASK the CREATOR CREW are most clearly represented historically by those identified by the names/titles as Adam, Enoch, Krishna, Moses, Buddha, Elijah, Jesus, Ti and Do not by the religions that formed from their incarnations but by their core teachings of Love of the Lord with ALL, but while not with us physically Love our neighbors as ourselves which helps us rise out of our instinctual self centered animal behaviors into a selfless - service to the CREATION through the last phyiscal incarnation of that MIND(holy spirit) from the Level Above Human, termed enlightenment, overcoming, samadi, etc. Meanwhile Space aliens and discarnate (dead humans) seek to influence alive humans into their service which don't seem altogether evil EXCEPT in how they propose that this enlightenment can be reached without that real connection with the CREATOR CREW's reps that we won't have if we don't look/search external to ourselves directing our ASKING often and application as best we can which Is then the God within part. It's not done for us. It's not automatic. It takes leaps of faith.02:00:00TiDo Witnessesnogod,religion,spirtuality,paranormal,ufoEverything true and real is becoming evident but only for most ardent seekers as ALL truthes are also being co-opted as they always have, as allowed by the Evolhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/15/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-leParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/15/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-le/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/15/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-leFri, 15 Jan 2010 04:00:00 GMTTi & Do=Second Coming of Father & Jesus Evolutionary Level Above Human cloud=UFO Lucifer=Space AlienSpoke a great deal about the TWO in terms of the way the Next Level comes whether as messengers (angels) or as Father/Son team (with one not seen by all) and as a partnership/team as in Bo and Peep who became Do and Ti (spoken of as Ti and Do) the founders of Human Individual Metamorphosis, hit headlines extensively globally first in 1975, then again in 1997 as the Heaven's Gate group. Ti and Do were the only ones to qualify as the Two Olive Trees and Two Lampstands Zecheriah first prohesized about and John in the book of revelations used to describe the Two Witnesses. The two olive trees, were each also a lampstand and were annointed/enlightenment ones who stand/exist before the jehovah (existing one) of the world,thus were both christs (also what Buddha means - enlightenment one, not a particular name. Everything true and real is becoming evident but only for most ardent seekers as ALL truthes are also being co-opted as they always have, as allowed by the Evolutionary Level Above Human, archaically termed The Kingdom of God/Heaven/Nirvana/Englightenment/Overcoming. Atheism IS today a belief in nothingness. Humans ARE powerful, but ONLY in potential of what they can become IF they individucally choose to ASK the CREATOR CREW are most clearly represented historically by those identified by the names/titles as Adam, Enoch, Krishna, Moses, Buddha, Elijah, Jesus, Ti and Do. Meanwhile Space aliens and discarnate (dead humans) seek to influence alive humans into their service which don't seem altogether evil EXCEPT in how they propose that this enlightenment can be reached without that real connection with the CREATOR CREW's reps that we won't have if we don't look/search external to ourselves directing our ASKING often and application as best we can which Is then the God within part. It's not done for us. It's not automatic. It takes leaps of faith.02:00:00TiDo Witnessesnogod,religion,spirtuality,paranormal,ufoSpoke a great deal about the TWO in terms of the way the Next Level comes whether as messengers (angels) or as Father/Son team (with one not seen by all) and ashttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/08/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alienParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/08/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alien/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/08/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alienFri, 08 Jan 2010 04:00:00 GMTTi & Do=Second Coming of Father & Jesus Evolutionary Level Above Human cloud=UFO Lucifer=Space AlienEverything true and real is becoming evident but only for most ardent seekers as ALL truthes are also being co-opted as they always have, as allowed by the Evolutionary Level Above Human, archaically termed The Kingdom of God/Heaven/Nirvana/Englightenment/Overcoming. Atheism IS today a belief in nothingness. Global Warming is natural and is being tounted as human created by those who either can't or won't give credit where credit is due. FACT: Human's, nor space aliens (according to their own admission) did not create any of what we term nature - the planets, the stars, the moons, the elements, the systems, the genetic structures, the electromagnetic force/energy that permeates and instructs ALL things according to their design and application within their overall environment that IS limited in scope. Humans ARE powerful, but ONLY in potential of what they can become IF they individucally choose to ASK the CREATOR CREW are most clearly represented historically by those identified by the names/titles as Adam, Enoch, Krishna, Moses, Buddha, Elijah, Jesus, Ti and Do not by the religions that formed from their incarnations but by their core teachings of Love of the Lord with ALL, but while not with us physically Love our neighbors as ourselves which helps us rise out of our instinctual self centered animal behaviors into a selfless - service to the CREATION through the last phyiscal incarnation of that MIND(holy spirit) from the Level Above Human, termed enlightenment, overcoming, samadi, etc. Meanwhile Space aliens and discarnate (dead humans) seek to influence alive humans into their service which don't seem altogether evil EXCEPT in how they propose that this enlightenment can be reached without that real connection with the CREATOR CREW's reps that we won't have if we don't look/search external to ourselves directing our ASKING often and application as best we can which Is then the God within part. It's not done for us. It's not automatic. It takes leaps of faith.02:00:00TiDo Witnessesnogod,religion,spirtuality,paranormal,ufoEverything true and real is becoming evident but only for most ardent seekers as ALL truthes are also being co-opted as they always have, as allowed by the Evolhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/01/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alienParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/01/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alien/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2010/01/01/ti-dosecond-coming-of-father-jesus-evolutionary-level-above-human-cloudufo-luciferspace-alienFri, 01 Jan 2010 04:00:00 GMTTi & Do=Second Coming of Father & Jesus Evolutionary Level Above Human cloud=UFO Lucifer=Space AlienEverything true and real is becoming evident but only for most ardent seekers as ALL truthes are also being co-opted as they always have, as allowed by the Evolutionary Level Above Human, archaically termed The Kingdom of God/Heaven/Nirvana/Englightenment/Overcoming. Atheism IS today a belief in nothingness. Global Warming is natural and is being tounted as human created by those who either can't or won't give credit where credit is due. FACT: Human's, nor space aliens (according to their own admission) did not create any of what we term nature - the planets, the stars, the moons, the elements, the systems, the genetic structures, the electromagnetic force/energy that permeates and instructs ALL things according to their design and application within their overall environment that IS limited in scope. Humans ARE powerful, but ONLY in potential of what they can become IF they individucally choose to ASK the CREATOR CREW are most clearly represented historically by those identified by the names/titles as Adam, Enoch, Krishna, Moses, Buddha, Elijah, Jesus, Ti and Do not by the religions that formed from their incarnations but by their core teachings of Love of the Lord with ALL, but while not with us physically Love our neighbors as ourselves which helps us rise out of our instinctual self centered animal behaviors into a selfless - service to the CREATION through the last phyiscal incarnation of that MIND(holy spirit) from the Level Above Human, termed enlightenment, overcoming, samadi, etc. Meanwhile Space aliens and discarnate (dead humans) seek to influence alive humans into their service which don't seem altogether evil EXCEPT in how they propose that this enlightenment can be reached without that real connection with the CREATOR CREW's reps that we won't have if we don't look/search external to ourselves directing our ASKING often and application as best we can which Is then the God within part. It's not done for us. It's not automatic. It takes leaps of faith.02:00:00TiDo Witnessesnogod,religion,spirtuality,paranormal,ufoEverything true and real is becoming evident but only for most ardent seekers as ALL truthes are also being co-opted as they always have, as allowed by the Evolhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2009/12/25/sawyer-on-the-rebel-jesus-the-antireligionspiriutaltheist-ti-do-heavens-gate-cult-of-cultsSpiritualityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2009/12/25/sawyer-on-the-rebel-jesus-the-antireligionspiriutaltheist-ti-do-heavens-gate-cult-of-cults/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2009/12/25/sawyer-on-the-rebel-jesus-the-antireligionspiriutaltheist-ti-do-heavens-gate-cult-of-cultsFri, 25 Dec 2009 04:00:00 GMTSawyer on: The Rebel Jesus-the Anti:Religion,Spiriutal,Theist Ti & Do Heaven's Gate Cult of CultsSome love rebel or historic Jesus. Others hate Him or think he never existed or was a creation of space aliens to make us sheeple or because they are afraid they will be held accountable to their choices that harm the free will of others (as we see some religionists/politicians, etc. everywhere doing) or because of human's co-opt'ing of His teachings into illusionary religions, to include some new age spiritual mindsets. Most quote only a few things He said to support their beliefs. I claim to have been the recipient of perhaps the greatest viewpoint on who He is/represents to include seeing clearly the absolutely required characteristics any return aka "Second Coming" MUST enact which ALL evidence clearly points to having been accomplished through the teachings of Ti & Do, behind the Heaven's Gate group who layed down their physical bodies to permenant sleep in 1997 to close their "overcoming" enlightenment mission of graduation into membership in the Evolutionary Level Above Human, leaving behind the clear cut reasons why & how we who remain & believe in what Jesus taught (not the Christian illusionary he did it for us spin, or that we are already Gods within spin which is Luciferian Space Alien generated brainwash through Paul of Tarsus and others) will have to also consider what Ti & Do taught & did, & if believed & spoken about to others might be literally "saved" (put on ice (figutively)) for a future opportunity to live & not perish in the planet's upcoming recycling, that will only get underway when a large asteroid hits the ocean (wormwood), one that astronomers warn of as the trajectory seems to be a closer pass than the moon is to the Earth. I, Sawyer was a fully dedicated member of the Heaven's Gate cult of cults for 19 years, left of my own volition & have since come into public support of Ti & Do's mission, even while having a family & "normal" life, not in any way religious or in condemnation of anyone, nor out of fear of death. Welcome to reality.02:00:00TiDo Witnessesnojesus,paranormal,ufo,religion,spiritualitySome love rebel or historic Jesus. Others hate Him or think he never existed or was a creation of space aliens to make us sheeple or because they are afraid thehttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2009/12/18/sawyer-on-jesus-christianity-maitreya-buddist-ti-and-do-heavens-gate-parrallelsParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2009/12/18/sawyer-on-jesus-christianity-maitreya-buddist-ti-and-do-heavens-gate-parrallels/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2009/12/18/sawyer-on-jesus-christianity-maitreya-buddist-ti-and-do-heavens-gate-parrallelsFri, 18 Dec 2009 04:00:00 GMTSawyer on Jesus Christianity Maitreya Buddist Ti and Do Heaven's Gate parrallelsAll the relgions have parrellel among them and All are also significantly distorted. For instance a caller on NPR duringa health care debate over the abortion issue said in Matthew's gospel, Jesus instructed his disciples to to out to "heal the sick". (Well offerring healing to anyone is a compassionate/loving thing to do). However, who was Jesus speaking to at that time? His disciples, those who had decided to leave ALL behind to "follow him". Who among us are taking on that role? What did Jesus say about who his disciples were? Those who "deny self, take up their cross and follow me" meaning those who are willing to give their total will over to Jesus - the idea of "thy will be done on Earth as it is in the heavenly Kingdom". And those who are willing to take up their cross meaning those willing to tell others of the requirements to be on the Jesus team that will be met with hatred and especially when some start leaving their homes and families to do so. (Some fundamental christians joy in having people hate them for their extreme misinterpretations). But real disciples don't want to be hated. And thirdly, to "follow him". Well that can't be done physially today but the characteristics of following him that we can do is to live by ALL of his commandments. By the way he didn't order people to do this. It was simply a choice and of course we will all respond or not in degrees. The highest order of Buddism reflects the same teachings - the prophecy of the Maitreya. Ti and Do fulfilled all the prophecies, that is for those willing to examine it but such teachings won't hardly be found in any religious or new age organization anymore as these are all populist commercially driven clubs that are actually turning eyes away from reality, thus athesism, who in turn throw the baby out with the bathwater as this reality absolutely came about by as much effort and intelligence as any human does in constructing anything intricate.02:00:00TiDo Witnessesnoreligion,science,paranormal,spirituality,jesusAll the relgions have parrellel among them and All are also significantly distorted. For instance a caller on NPR duringa health care debate over the abortion ihttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2009/12/11/sawyer-on-jesus-christianity-maitreya-buddist-ti-aParanormalhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2009/12/11/sawyer-on-jesus-christianity-maitreya-buddist-ti-a/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2009/12/11/sawyer-on-jesus-christianity-maitreya-buddist-ti-aFri, 11 Dec 2009 04:00:00 GMTSawyer on Jesus Christianity Maitreya Buddist Ti and Do Heaven's Gate parrallelsAll relgions have parrellel among them & are significantly distorted. For instance a caller on NPR during a health care debate over the abortion issue said in Matthew's gospel, Jesus instructed his disciples to to out to "heal the sick". (Well offerring healing to anyone is a compassionate/loving thing to do). However, who was Jesus speaking to at that time? His disciples, who had decided to leave ALL behind to "follow him". Who among us are taking on that role? What did Jesus say about who his disciples were? Those who "deny self, take up their cross and follow me" meaning those who are willing to give their total will to Jesus -"thy will be done on Earth as it is in the heavenly Kingdom". And those who are willing to "give their literal life to" to apply to the Jesus team that will be met with hatred when some start leaving their homes and families to do so. (Some christians joy in having people hate them for their extreme misinterpretations). But real disciples don't want to be hated. And thirdly, to "follow him". Well that can't be done physially today but the characteristics of following him that we can do is to live by ALL of his commandments. By the way he didn't order people to do this. It was simply a choice and of course we will all respond or not in degrees. The highest order of Buddism reflects the same teachings - the prophecy of the Maitreya. Ti and Do fulfilled all the prophecies, that is for those willing to examine it but such teachings won't hardly be found in any religious or new age organization anymore as these are all populist commercially driven clubs that are actually turning eyes away from reality, thus athesism, who in turn throw the baby out with the bathwater as this reality absolutely came about by as much effort and intelligence as any human does in constructing anything intricate. This episode also shows how Paul was the real founder of Christianity and was actually stimulated by a space alien to detract from the real Jesus teaching.02:00:00TiDo Witnessesnoreligion,science,paranormal,spirituality,jesusAll relgions have parrellel among them & are significantly distorted. For instance a caller on NPR during a health care debate over the abortion issue said in Mhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2009/11/20/2012-is-now-space-aliens-created-religionssee-raelSpiritualityhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2009/11/20/2012-is-now-space-aliens-created-religionssee-rael/#commentshttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer/2009/11/20/2012-is-now-space-aliens-created-religionssee-raelFri, 20 Nov 2009 04:00:00 GMT2012 is NOW Space Aliens created religions(See Rael) - same magic pill to eternal blissYes, it's all upside down alright. What we as a human species are least able to believe is most likely most full with reality BUT believe me the space aliens & human illuminati++ they control with all their many minons who don't have the foggiest idea which end is up, but put on all the pretences of knowing with all their phd's & tail feather self appointed godselves that can't even hardly reduce their own aging nor stop anyones demise. So many thrive on big talk while lording over all around them. Let's make believe EVERYTHING IS TRUE, EVERYTHING IS REAL, what you see and hear is what you get, though it's all also degreed in that reality. In this way I will decribe what any repeat appearance of a supreme being MUST represent to Earthlings & I guarantee next to no one will buy it, while millions are glued to religiosity to explain or ignore what to expect in such a future coming. The real deal requires our all & immedieatly, though help us in a stepwise way. The real deal doesn't sweet talk us with sacrine words, flowing robes & sensous pleasures. The real deal says they came from way distant outer space, not a planet or planetary system. The real deal says that every one of their members is above every human/space alien human equivilent as every human in one major sense of having choice is above every animal. The real deal come as a surpise, not through observation, though we can see after the fact. The real deal never promises us something great for nothing hardly given. The real deal doesn't put human genetic families above Level Above Human family, to include those seeking to become new members, thus when they come require new disciples to give their will to that rep-Older Member-Father-Lord, willing to go the distance even to their own death building trust along the way that comes only by seeking & doing the will of the rep in their charge. They don't want robots but they know that unless we are willing to become their's we will never make the required grade.02:00:00TiDo WitnessesnoReligion,Paranormal,UFO,Spirituality,JesusYes, it's all upside down alright. What we as a human species are least able to believe is most likely most full with reality BUT believe me the space aliens &