Sawyer on Ti and Do aka The Two Witnesses - The non-religious, non-space alien, non-spiritualized "Father" and Jesus (name used last time they came) team  

The following is my comment as a guest on the Pastor Eli-James show. You can access the show on Pastor Eli-James blogtalkradio.com profile. It was recorded on April 20, 2008 at 12noon to 1:40pm. I had to leave at about 1:35pm.

I had to leave before you called the show to an end, so I listened to the end with your guest Dan. I was glad to hear him talk about the entire earth in travail with the birth. That is the spirit birth Jesus was talking about and the reason new members to the Kingdom of Heaven must give their lives...they must lose their physical life to gain that future life and to qualify for a new body. That was one of the biggest points to the entire Jesus mission along with the physical nature of the Kingdom of Heaven as it's not a spirit existence. It doesn't mean members don't have a soul/spirit - the do and they can depending on their task take a different vehicle (body), but not as humans do with a suit of clothes they like to go out on the town. They would do so with their older member's (father's) instruction to do so should a task need to be done without a physical body. That new body is incorruptible because it is not made out of the same matter as a human body. Their are any number of different "models" they may advance to have reason to occupy, but all of them are far more advanced above human which Jesus demonstrated to some degree in the 40 days he stayed around, very little of which was recorded. The main corruptible nature of a human flesh body that a Kingdom of Heaven physical body doesn't have is a digestive/reproductive system. Those who fell - the 1/3 of the angels who fell had not yet graduated into full fledged members of the kingdom of heaven. They were only "saved". Saved dosn't get you to be a full members and a new body. Saved only gets you in line for another opportunity to graduate at that next opportunity that is given by the Kingdom of God by their sending another of their representatives. However, depending on how far along any one human is will depends on what stage is next for those "saved" souls. The only requirement to be "saved" is to "believe" - recognize the current representative as being from the Kingdom of God which is not on this planet thought when a member from that kingdom is on the earth's surface or in the Earth's atmospheric and/or electromagnetic spirit world then since they are acting as a link in the chain of mind that goes from Older Member younger member, then to that degree the Kingdom of God is amoung us on Earth. But when they leave, the only way the KIngdom of God is amoung us is through those who may have been left behind in spirit and/or flesh who had received a sizable dose of the Mind of God while the representative was here. The fallen angels could not have had incorruptible Kingdom of God new bodies because those bodies do not have the organs to impregnate a human. The body from the kingdom of heaven does not make human genetic sperm. Ti and Do said there were some who they "saved" who were saved with their physical bodies. They called them domestics, sort of the way humans domesticate animals and those animals may feel they are part of the family yet not really knowing how different than are from humans. In the case of the domestics they too can be challenged to not see the vast difference between them and the members of the KIngdom Above Human. In this way they still need more lessons as they have above all an ego to relinquish which is where the eastern religions get the practice of being self-less which Jesus also taught and especially for those who were not in the graduation classroom. During graduation classroom one needed to be totally selfish but then to direct all their love and caring - giving - service to that representative who was sent to them by the "father" (older member in the Kingdom of God) who then serves as their "midwife" in that "spirt birth" while the gestation period that Ti and Do called a metamorphosis - the creation of a "soul" based body within our flesh body becomes viable to stand on it's own which can only happen by the acceptance of a degree of God's mind - the real frequency stuff - light of God. If is for this reason that Jesus knew his disciples had to leave all behind -mother, father sister, brother, children, possessions so they had
zero to divert their love and affection, reponsiability to while the switched over to givign that same love and responsability to that member from the Kingdom who was incarnate in the flesh at that time. Yes there are lots of metaphores written by John in trying to describe his dreams. He was given pictures and interpretations which he could only relay according to his cultural experience that included big time the mind graft he formed with the one called Jesus. When Jesus left to take his body with him as witnessed by many - into a cloud of light, that together with all they experienced and all Jesus said while physically with him and his fellow students came more to mind. He understdood far more as he was overwhelmed with new information when he first heard it so didn't even know what questions to ask. They barely understood all Jesus saying in parables and with words though they understood far more than those who weren't with him day in and day out and had not committed their entire lives to his teachership. But Jesus was also preparing for future graduation classes to come and that's what I am attempting to do now on behalf of Ti and Do. It's the same formula. That never changes. The Kingdom of God does not need us. They simply create a field of experience where there are discarnates (constructed of human strata mind (information)) and through their interjection Level Above Human mind or Holy Spirit - Mind (information) pertinent to God's kingdom. Then they give out seeds. See the parables Jesus recited about the kingdom like a field and  how the seeds fall on thorny ground but some sprout and grow into trees that give fruit. That fruit would be new potential members. None of this happens overnight. It takes millenium to bring a first seeding to gestation but of course that is a short time from the Kingdom of God's perspective.

Now I hate to say it, but your guest did not have a physical body of the nature of the kind operated by the Kingdom of God I'm talking about or he would be the equivilent or near equivilent of Jesus and if he was he would be saying the exact same things Jesus said which was overcome, overcome, overcome - and what do we overcome - ALL, ALL, ALL nothing short and that includes "living as a human being". And for those that say, we can't earn it, well what does being "accounted worthy" mean. Did Jesus have to work to help us? Was it tough? Did he weep at the prospect of "giving himself up" knowing he would be murdered for no crime at all because he already knew how the leaders in the religious sects of his day hated him? That's why it was the ultimate sacrife. Read the book of John but all the book and you will see for the first time perhaps how rare an opportunity it is and how only a tiny, tiny few will respond because not that many seeds are planted and not that many survive (choose to pursue God's help - step by step.

Luk 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
Luk 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world (time period), and the resurrection from the dead (those who don't gain entrance into the KIngdom of Heaven and/or are "saved" by the Kingdom of Heaven), neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
Luk 20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Luk 20:37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses shewed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
Luk 20:38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.

And was Jesus just a signpost I heard your guest say? As if being a signpost for God was a lowly task. If someone is blind and does not know which way to go, a signpost is the only thing they need, but unless they walk the path described which entails a physical and mental effort they will never get to the destination that signpost indicates. Sure if all he did was say..."I am the door - knock and I'll open and you come in" which he did say but what he didn't describe in those few words but did describe probably at that time to the degree to which the might understand and not think him more loony than most already thought him is that God wants to hear a strong and determined and persistant knock before God will consider it a knock worth opening the door to. Talk is cheap, cheap, cheap. Sure it's a first step. A weak knock once in a while is better than a weak one far and few between. Ti and Do tried to train us to knock all day long and to do so with conviction and not aloud (except on one short occasion that lasted several weeks) because then we can fall into the trap of others seeing us talking to god and how that makes us special because we are talking to god and another is not so they are not as committed when jesus said to talk to god in private, yet what do the catholics do, they don't even tell us to pray to god except in the form of vain repetitions. Who really undersand the lords prayer anymore. It's  still a fine prayer but after a while is said without hardly any ooomph and that prayer and any other is never all there is to repentance. Repent means to change one's heart - which entails making amends - owning one's "missing of the mark" to the person or persons we feel we did not treat appropriately the way Jesus might have.

But getting back to the guests saying he had a heavenly body. If so then where is it?  Did he leave it in the closet somewhere. Actually that's what Ti did. She left her level above human physical body in another task as she had grown such in the kingdom of God that she could multitask in that way. However Do, had not been in the kingdom of God quite that long. Do graduated the human kingdom in a previous civilization on Earth, when Lucifer flunked out with the 1/3 by cohabiting with human women.  (and by the way Jesus alluded to he and his father coming "to make our abode with you", that's live with you, which is what happened when Ti (the father) and Do (was the same soul that was in the vehicle called Jesus) came as the Two Witnesses.

I don't like spotlighting others experiences as I liked a great deal of what your guest said. I believe he has been the recipient of God's mind - he must have a soul and I am not in competition with him or anyone just because I happened to be someone who's physical body was picked for a previously "saved" soul to occupy and yes, "take over" like a body snatcher Do would joke. I Sawyer wanted a relationship with God so I asked on many occasions though didn't know what form that would take. I just knew what form it couldn't take. When I left them, a long story, but not because I lost faith really, that "saved" soul either found another body that wanted a relationship with God that could accept this new "plainly" spoken truth as Jesus also said would happen at time time or left with the others while still in spririt form or is still here and is still working to help me relay this information as best I can to the world at large a mightly task but one that more and more will take place in prep for the final appearance of the Kingdom of God, this time in their full glory (brightness) as lightening shines from east to west, for every eye to see and will mark the end of the judgement period as everyone before that great and dreadful day will have decided what they believed or disbelieved.

If you believe in what Jesus represented as he never wanted to be worshipped. He wanted to only provide a mouthpiece/example of his Father's mind in him, then if you give Ti and Do a chance you will find the same information, the same requirements and the same kind, loving helpfulness but also the same seriousness that turning against is your choice and you will reap what you sow.

It was as hard for those in Jesus' day, after he left to believe in Jesus as their messiah as it is now for many to believe Ti and Do were their return but this time with the Father in plain view for a while. The Jews in Jesus' day expected a political kingdom to come and rule and still think that is coming and now the christians many of them are parrotting that same idea that jesus will come as a human leader or as a government to force people into submission. That's not the way of the Kingdom of Heaven. They don't get any joy in commanding around others and they would find no joy or pleasure wowing us with their reality unless it might serve them at a future time. They will only reveal their true nature when that vehicle we have will die and generations will pass so it will become myth as otherwise we would not have a fair choice. We'd see the majesty in plain view through our body's sense and would either say yeah, yeah, yeah or no, no, no. But then a few weeks or months or years would pass and we'd soon wonder if that really happened and if so what if anything it meant and our kids would see it twisted to mean somethng metaphorical when much was meant literal, as has happened over the last 2000 years.

I am not further along toward being "saved". My task is for me - the kind of growth I need to be ready for a future graduation class. So if it wasn't clear...everyone now more than ever NEEDS their physical body for as long as they can use it. If they die believing in Ti and Do as the current reps and all they said and did then they will be "saved". If they don't die before Ti and Do and crew come back then they may be physically "taken up" into a spacecraft or cloud of light. Those who have not died by then who are not ready to go will see that and some may think it's aliens taking them and how gullible they are. Others will just recognize this as God's Kingdom but feel they have a task to do on Earth and they will live out their days and the Next Level may seek to preserve their genetic biology as for a graduation to occur there needs to be a match between what the soul has grown to understand and what the human mind (brain) is prone and taught to understand and live by.

Now there is no organization to be a part of. No dues to pay. No books to buy though some of us (as there are a few others like me - former members - returned to Ti and Do's service) have materials the heaven's gate group left behind with the hope of circulating when asked. We do not have a facility to provide materials for free. The basic information which is a great deal I will give freely for as long as I live, but other materials that require effort to produce and ship need some compenation for. You can write me at sawyerhg@yahoo.com with questions, invites to talk and/or materials. In this way one can not earn their way - No amount of study earn's one's way. At this time the minimum anyone can do is to start talking/asking for Ti and Do's help or even for the strength to ask/believe and then simultaneously in whatever form it takes - a few words to lots of words that won't differ from what jesus said they need to share the info about Ti and Do with others as best they can. The rep is not here now but the rep can hear you use the name they chose to use when they were here. You can call on Do or Ti and Do but when you do project your asking way out into the physical heaven's - the stars -deep outer space. You will be answered but don't stop no matter what and the answers will most liklny not come as a voice in your head as many spirits can be a voice in our heads. Ti and Do would say that we are not responsible for the thoughts we have, but we are responsible for the thoughts we entertain, consider and then act upon. And if you do want to go when they return in their large space craft that may look like a comet or some such huge crystalie sphere there will be no mistaking them for aliens. If an alien spacecraft comes to trick you, don't get on. They will not be allowed to say they are or represent Ti and Do, so if necessary ask them who they are.

The soul/mind from the Kingdom of God that took the human vehicle called Do, was the same soul/mind that took the human body then he called Jesus (who returned physically into a cloud of light) who was the same soul/mind who took the body called Elijah (who was taken physically by a whirlwind of fire, who was the same soul/mind that took the body called Moses, who may have been taken, who was the same soul/mind who took the body called Enoch (who walked with God and was "taken" by God) who was actually the same soul/mind that started this benific experiment as Adam (man).

The Kingdom of God is not a gendered membership. They have outgrown all mammailian life forms but they still have fun, have challenges,  have numerious opportunities to explore and think on their feet. However new members once they graduate - the way the Kingdom of God gets new members, are apprentises for quite a while, but working apprentises. Some examples of their tasks or that of domesticates aspiring for full membership would be to show up on earth, often in twos that humans think look different, as in the case with abraham, jacob, joseph, lot, jesus disciples and others. Ti and Do said fun in the Next Level (short for the Kingdom of God/Heaven) exists but it's like horses have fun running around and yet to a human that has only limited fun anymore and fun eventually comes from being purposeful and helping others.

When a rep is not among us physically then we can offer our service to others more than ever as a way of showing God how much we apprecieate their love for us to even give us this opportunity to live and to grow - evolve.

And this is completly scientific. God also created evoltionary processes. It's just that there is also an evolution of mind. That is the spirit birth, when that mind makes that leap of faith into a new strata that has both physicality and mentality.

You can also see this information and much much more on http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sawyer

Thank you.

Sawyer

P.S. Yes of course Jesus is my lord but Jesus was/is his Father in him, so it is actually that MIND - the Holy Spirit that both Jesus and his Father sought to be the instruments of and I saw that same mind in Do and Do saw that same mind in Ti and I saw that same mind in Ti but Ti was hard for me to reach which is why Do is my "father". Ti was in a female vehicle (body) as this is not a man's kingdom. Ti is Do's Father (older member is better terminology as it has no gender). Ti didn't tell Do that. Do recognized it in the first few years they worked together. And by the way they were never sexual with one another - a long story. Sexuality is amoung many things one thing to evntually overcome as is ego - how we think of ourselves as special which in part is created as intellect and least of all as "looks". Those who don't have great intellect and/or looks are those that have a better chance seeing the Next Level as they are no hoodwinked into thinking they are in some way "gods" themselves according to the way others treat them just because of their capasity to impress them with their skills, talents, money, power, intellect or looks.

And I thank Eli James for allowing me to express myself. It takes a big person and someone who I believe the Lord smiles upon to be open to such discussion when it can upset so many applecarts.

1) Don't believe they and/or a God Kingdom exists. 2) Don't believe Spirit world exists 3) Believe humans are Gods 3)Think we will get to Heaven by Grace alone - The He did it for us illusion. 4) Think we will "live" after we die.

The war in the heavens - spiritual and political. I hate to say it but it's only getting worse. All sorts are claiming to be saviours now - false Christ(ians) leading the pack.

I, sawyer know there to be a Luciferian plot/conspiracy to further dilute and ignore and laugh at and squash all that the one called Jesus represented to us. People who post things contrary to what Jesus actually said and represented are victims of the discarnate luciferians, the dropouts from the Kingdom Of the One True God's graduation program, that went AGAINST the kingdom of God. Many have been deceived and it's not their fault but that does not mean they don't have a certain responsability to not continue the disinformation campaign attempting to smear the greatest person that ever existed (great because he was serving as our link to the creator crew, as through his Older Member who he called "Father in Heaven" and wanted only to be the best link he could be to the degree of showing his love (giving of his blood, sweat and tears) so we could see the "way" to true salvation which in no way is an automatic condition and without significant sacrifice as nothing and I mean nothing comes from nothing and something always must come from something. If we want the grand prize of eternal life in a new non-animalistic environment working in a creator crew that seeks to help humans evolve in body, mind and soul then the price is to eventually do as Jesus did, not the talk part so much, not the miricle part so much, but the "overcoming" of all things human that glue us to our human condition. When a representative is not physically among us that can take the shape of "giving" to one another, the only form of "love" (money being the least form of showing that love as that is giving by proxy) as Martin Luther King spoke to - giving by effort and by person to person, community to community without regard for human bigotry of race, creed, so called intellect, class and wealth which are all false god characteristics that so many strive for and will not save them from the first or second death. As humans we are all pawns and slaves to some degree. There is no freedom and there is no freedom in entering the spirit world, unless one has as best they are able given themselves to the One True God through the representatives sent to us in the linage in this civilization to include Jesus, Elijah, Moses, Enoch and Adam - the first soul seed given a human being as the start of the latest God Experiment-Benevolent that provides us with a gradual learning environment - a school through which we can at the appropriate time participate in a graduation classroom where at that point, marked by the physical presense of a member of  the One True Kingdom Level of God give it our all - leaving all behind to focus all our attention and love and strength of mind and body to that representative regardless of the name or type of body the God Rep chooses to use to interface with us. The Graduation classroom has ended. The so called "saints" are those who completled the graduation requirements the best they could. They were known as Heaven's Gate, yes the media labeled a deadly cult who willinging participated in an ongoing program over some 22 years to wean themselves from the human mammailiam ways (which are fine for those who wish to remain human, most of which who have not received that gifted "seed" that enables their recognition of the One True Kingdom of God. Ti and Do were the most current reps from th e One True Kingdom of God, that circulates throughout the physical "heavens" and is aware and in touch with us through the spirit carrier signal that transports the Mind of God to us when we ask and continue to ask and then seek to apply as best we can improvement in our relationship with the representative given us. Nor Jesus, nor Ti and Do, nor any represennntative does anything "for" us. They don't want robots amoung them. They can create robots. They want strong willed hard workers who will appreciate the gift given them by showing it in their every thought, word and deed. While there is no physical presense of a rep we show the One True Kingdom of God and it's membership and reps how much we care to be among them some day by doing to others as we'd have others do to us - "love (give) to our neighbors (all people - friend or foe) equal to how we give to ourselves. This signals those in the One True Kingdom Of God that we mean business - that we have their "soul-seed" as there is no other reason for a mammal to "give" to another mammal equal to themselves as mammals are by nature "me first" creatures but the Kingdom Above human - the one True Kingdom of God is a strata of life "above" in every way the mammalian way and is "service" based thus love is shown by the "giving". In this way no matter what happens to us on Earth, if we keep the prize on the top of our mind it will pay off - not in the world with riches and materialism and hedonism and egotism and being duped into thinking we are Gods just because we have a "seed". The presense of the "seed" is only good if it can be sprouted and even then brought to maturity to yeild fruit. This is the spiritual birth Jesus spoke of and is only accomplished when we are graduated to the One True Kingdom of God, through the eye to eye physical relationship we establish and grow with a representative from the One True Kingdom of God, that marks the opened "heaven's Gate". When they leave the gate is closed but they will come back to "save" the remenant of their believers.

Please for your sakes don't discount Ti and Do as reps. That's what many did to Jesus after he left. Examine them side by side if you want, but as Jesus brought updates to what Moses established and was hated by the "religious" of the day, Ti and Do brought updates to what Jesus brought and were  hated by the "religious" of the day. By "religious" we don't mean the body of believers, we mean institutionalized puppets of the human bastardization of what the representative of the One True Kingdom of God brought and intended and made an institution of it that is in bed with all the other economic and political ruts that cease to resemble the teachings of their founders.

We can choose to follow New Age Spiritualists, popularizing the "god within" concept, pseudo-atheism, denying a higher kingdom level of life above human (not alien) and illuded Christians & all others to death, then temporary existence in the spirit world limited to Earth, without feelings or changeability OR we can seek communication with Ti and Do, a connection to eventual "eternal life".