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CHRISTOPHER
11/3/2009 7:34 AM UTC
Great Show Guys , looking forward to listening more.
SIR MALACHI
10/14/2009 3:00 AM UTC
Thanks Shane & Matt & Frank for the show.
Pastor Ed & Annieb
7/26/2009 7:27 PM UTC
Thanks for the nice comment at our place, and we love what you all do here at PV!
Dr. Blogstein
3/27/2009 2:32 PM UTC
Thank you! As a grind hater myself, your words mean a lot!
RadioActiveOnline
3/24/2009 10:22 AM UTC
You are AWESOME Shane! Thanks for stopping by the show. You are welcome any time. - Richard Dean
I Got My Reasons
12/29/2008 6:59 PM UTC
Thanks for listening to my latest... I know I would!
10/24/2008 4:27 PM UTC
You do a good show...too bad I'm on at the same time as you are or I'd be able to catch you live!
Paul A. Ibbetson
9/25/2008 5:08 PM UTC
Hey guys, Keep up the good work. I don't know who this Sun Tui guy is because I don't listen to the angry lib shows much, too many positive things to do in the day. Just know that you would not be getting this liberal venom if you were not getting listened to, so keep on doing what your doing!
(Annieb)
9/18/2008 5:20 AM UTC
Thank you Frank, for visiting us tonight. At least I think it was you. I'm not sure Shane has come by yet?hmmmmm. I still love you both! I just wanted to tell you both, that I love your show more than some of my favorite TV shows. I don't know how I became so addicted to your show, but I am hooked, and if either one of you become a big star someday, please don't forget me, or your BTR family. We love you guys and respect you very much. Keep fighting the good fight, and Shane, you know us women, just love seeing you in person, you sly dog. Such a tease! I bet Shane is the baby of the family, and has older sisters!!!
Lessons Of 2012
9/9/2008 11:15 PM UTC
We'll see in the debates...........
Wake up Call Show
9/5/2008 3:03 AM UTC
As usually the conservatives coo coos are full of @#$%%^. Dings bats wearing shades yep thats you all. Cant see whats right before your noses. It sure is christian to have children out of wedlock. Wow maybe 17 year olds around the country will use the Palins as the American example and model and all start getting pregnant while still in high school. Glad it wasn't Obama's daughter. I think this thing with Sarah Palin is disgusting and most women should feel disrespected at Mccain playing the Gender card. What would this GOP say if it the shoe was on the other foot and it was Obama. They would be all over him like white on rice. So lets give some equal opportunity to Mccain and his both warmongers. Please check out our last couple of shows on Sarah Palin and the unknown facts about her and her red neck crew. How about her and husband being part of an organization that had only white members only and was fighting for separate soverenty from the USA. Whose talking about that? Its all on record. Man if Obama had been part of the black panthers or any group that could be assumed separatist from US. This is bullshit. Sarah Palin and her family are unamerican red necks. What a political mess this is more drama than the average soap opera. BTW if you get a chance check out of fact sheet/list that the media has shared with you on the REAL SARAH PALIN besides he beauty queen experience and her inability to even run a family business but she wants to run a country. HA! How about cutting funding on a Teen group homes,counseling in Alaska and lets tell the truth about all those earmarks that she requested for Alaska which she promises to stop. Sarah Palin is a failure as a Governor and a mother! Lets Keep it real. She need to be at home breastfeeding that 4 month old baby maybe if she spent more time with her children instead of dumping them off and providing no balance life they wouldnt be running around seeking love and companionship. Those poor kids. A chicken has more care for her chicks after spitting out eggs than she does.
The Wandafay Show
8/25/2008 4:35 PM UTC
Thank you Frank for coming by my show last night! God bless and God bless our Nation!
Annie Rose Bio-Med
8/17/2008 8:14 PM UTC
Your SHOW is awesome, my husband I love it!!!! Diabetes, Do you know anyone suffering? Please listen to my Talk Radio Show, RATE the SHOW and Leave a COMMENT
one of many men
8/14/2008 12:56 AM UTC
THANKS FOR MAKING US ONE OF YOUR FAVORITES,LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOU JOIN US LIVE 2PM THURS
SomethingRelevant
8/6/2008 2:05 AM UTC
I have been fortunate to hear MANY MANY fantastic shows here on BTR, but your debate show tonight was by far one of the BEST SHOWS EVER heard on BTR since it's glorious inception! You should be proud of yourself and your guests!!! Kudos to you , you are WONDERFUL!!! The Hosts of SomethingRelevantRadio Show
Syrin
7/15/2008 7:20 AM UTC
I missed your show live guys, I don't like when that happens :(
stoke newington kris
7/2/2008 11:46 PM UTC
oh man! wanted to download for my flight and got "not available at uk store". Bollocks!
Sun Tui
6/23/2008 6:33 AM UTC
Lol, you amuse me. The funniest part is the fact that nothing that you Claim that I stand for or believe in is what I actually believe in or stand for-nor what the ppl against the war stand for or believe in, but ok. Put words in my mouth if it appeases your ego. As a matter of fact I think I will stop by and listen to your program-just for sheer entertainment purposes, because I find your commentary funny as hell. I love how you conservs love to twist around the intentions of ppl who threaten your security and convenience in this society. Cause thats what you're all about really. Afraid of anyone who rattles your cage-so you all 'clan' up and scream 'terror'. But I appreciate your commentary-it confirms my initial idea that your simply confused. But I'm not upset by your words by any means. Stand for your convictions, but you don't have to knock others down or misconstrue in order to do so. Peace and Blessings. *Sun*
PoliticalVindication
6/21/2008 9:56 PM UTC
So that is not you in the video - you just want to feature the craven man on your radio page. What is worse, the man who stands to slander aloud or the knave who applauds? My outrage toward you is for the black-hearted poison you dine on, for words spoken against good men and women in the military, and for the nihilistic philosophy you champion. Were you just another troofer I might have simply dismissed you as a paranoid delusional who finds solace in accusing men in black of wholesale slaughter. But you crossed the line when you celebrated the lies of Darrel Anderson with childish glee. American soldiers lie buried under our flag and you dismiss them as mere goons driven by hatred. You call them mercenaries, drawn to the military for a check - they kill wantonly for need of a check - do you realize how grave are the charges you make? How can you not expect outrage from patriots when you say such things - when you support such things? But throughout your impotent replies you offer no defense and no apologies. I don't know you, but judging from the replies you've given here I believe you are young, uneducated and naive, and so may not understand the righteous fury you arouse when you claim to see no difference between the terrorists that kill innocents and the soldiers that work to protect innocents. That's why I've taken several minutes of my precious time to challenge you, even though you delete the therapy I offer you for free. That is why we'll talk about you and your kind on Tuesday - not to injure you in any way beyond what you have already done to your own reputation, but to remind everyone that within this country of plenty, there sit brooding malcontents and conspiracy kooks who cannot see beyond their own prejudices and so condemn the many they know so little about. For you to expect that you would get away with saying such things astounds me. I'm done with you - but not with your kind. Expect me to call you out every time you cross that line. There's more to honor than the parade, Sun Tui. There's standing up to protect it when it is savagely attacked. There I'll be. God bless the American soldier!
6/21/2008 4:01 AM UTC
What you can't seem to comprehend is I care not about you or your show. Your the one who came onto my page and attacked me for the content on it. You are allowed to say what you wish on your show, just as any profile page host or listener can have whatever content they want on thier page/show as long as it doesn't violate Terms of Use of BTR. I dont even acknowledge you 'winger/conservs' enough to care what you talk about because I know the truth and do positive things to benefit truth backed by facts and reality. You all seem to spend alot of time studying the people you disagree with and twisting around their words and intent because thats the only basis you have as the fuel for your fire. Instead of taking positive action to better the community you all sit up here and waste energy complaining and 'hating' on ppl with opposing views. Sorry, but my energy isn't directed towards hating ppl. Thats more up your alley. Your opinion holds no weight to me-so why would I waste my energy on caring about you or your show? But you spend your energy on prowling around BTR to find ppl you dont like so you can talk about them-kind of childish and unproductive. But yes I will be informing the person who made the vid and they can decide whether your worth spending their time on a law suit based on the content of your next show. I on the other hand will not attend. but rather send them the link for them to investigate. Have a great evening.
6/21/2008 1:03 AM UTC
It's predictable you should try to hide behind copyright protections, apparently you do have some shame left in that skulking frame of yours. Unfortunately for you and for the owners of that video there are several copyright infringements within it - the most egregious being the illegal use of Michael Yon's photograph of Major Mark Bieger cradling a little girl named Farah (who died from her injuries sustained by a terrorist detonated bomb intended to kill children rushing to soldiers for candy). He recently sued Michael Moore for using that same picture, and considering the company of traitors you keep and the troofer you are, I expect this is another abuse that former special forces soldier Michael Yon will not abide. The fact that this video has been viewed 13,000 means cha-ching for him, too! As for us clipping the video - it's legal as "fair use" of copyrighted material because we will be using it to "educate" and as part of our "political commentary" - both covered by law. What is most important to us is that we don't take Darrel Anderson out of context - we would rather accuracy be maintained even as we forcefully challenge his baseless, bitter charges. It's all about fairness - and you're certainly welcome to call in and defend yourself if you think we're being unfair. Here in America we all fight on an open battlefield of ideas - if you can resist the pangs to desert once again maybe we will meet you there...
6/20/2008 5:31 PM UTC
"we will clip audio from your video and play it for our listeners.." The content of the video is copy wtitten so go right ahead so I can sue your ass. Crawl back into my hole? Your the one hiding behind an elephant. Why do you think you or your show is more important than it is? Your an internet radio host mot a celebrity. The only ppl that care about your opinion are the ones that agree with your opinion and I think just about as much as them as I have stated about you. What makes you think you are impressive enough to make anyone crawl into a hole. You are announcing your show to me because you think I will waste my energy on you and your prozac victims is that it? Play the clip though so I can report it to the proper authorities because it does not belong to you, and as blogtalk has done to other shows who have already used unauthorized audio material on their show it will not be allowed so you better look into that b4 you make more of an ass out of yourself.
6/20/2008 6:18 AM UTC
Darrel Anderson is the name of the deserter in the video. Is that you Sun Tui? Are you the traitor to your "brothers"?
6/20/2008 6:04 AM UTC
If that is truly you in the video, you'll give me your name. Certainly the rabble you hang with knows it, so I'm sure the courage that carried you from battle will suffice now - what is your name? I've done more to honor the soldiers of this country than you have - even a baby just born has done more to honor our soldiers than you have. You call them murderers. Genocide is what they practice. Racist warmongers looking for brown people to slaughter. Dupes. Victims. How dare you. There are good reasons to oppose this war, but you've thought of none of them. You choose instead to slander the troops and backhand those who have served so you could bask in the adulation of anti-war kooks who hate rather than think. You tool! Are you so insecure that this is what you'll do for attention - betray our bravest? You deserve to be called out for what you've said about our military men and women - did you not expect that? Did you think the whole country buys your bullshit? No country is perfect, no military is perfect, but you chose to make them all monsters. And the fact that you think 9/11 was an inside job makes you all the more atrocious. So yes, we will skewer you on Tuesday, and our hundreds of listeners will learn about what you think and who you disrespect. Name or no, we will clip audio from your video and play it for our listeners. Then you can crawl back into your hole and commiserate with your troofer comrades, salivating over your ten minutes of fame looped over and again on a Youtube video. I hope it was worth the price...
6/20/2008 5:14 AM UTC
And while your at it get off your 'Honorable' butt and do some foot work and donate to the troops you claim to support. Participate in the Veterans hospitals and donate to college benefits for soilders and psychiatric care. Thats one of the reasons they're protesting. Americans and a Govt who want to send them out on their butts to fight for their lazy greedy asses but sends them out w.o. appropriate armor, protection or quarter then when they return to the U.S. they get no support or appropriate respect from you gluttonous leeches who like to pay lip service and call it honor when theyre the ones watching their friends die and going crazy from seeing so many dead bodies. Same shyt as the Vietnam war lack of fkin respect to even listen properly and comprehend. You'd rather defend a Govt. who lies to its citizens for profit than listen to ppl who challenge the lies. A bunch of frggin vultures is what ppl like you are. You wouldnt know what honor was if it kicked you in the damn face-so quit harassing me and buy a damn clue.
6/20/2008 4:54 AM UTC
You dont even know who I am idiot so rant on. Karmas a bitch and ignorance is not bliss. I could care less what you do but you are all up on my d*ck. If your so much of a damn man strap the hell up and go fight your own damn war against innocent women and kids punk(like thats real honor to pick on ppl who just want to live their lives and be free-not!). Why are you sweatin me so damn hard. I guess you need new material for your lame ass show. Stop drinking the tap war-the prozac and tranquilizers in it is fking with your brain cells. Your gonna do a whole show based on a listeners profile-what a moron. But thanks for the fan fare. You call yourself a conservative but have no respect for the sovereignty of other countries but expect to have rights in your own-wrong. All I gotta say is the road to hell is a slippery slope and you Will reap what you sew no matter how seemingly insignificant. And so shall it be. Peace(not really).
6/20/2008 3:59 AM UTC
The innocent soldiers that are committing genocide? You slander men and women in uniform for 10 minutes in your video and you accuse me of making them out to be bad guys? How much did you get paid to sell out your nation's honor, or did you do it for free? It's obvious you're not too bright, but that's no defense - you knowingly lie to those eager to believe them. Because you can grow a beard doesn't make you a man - you're a spineless worm. This upcoming Tuesday we'll be talking about you - no holds barred. You need to be revealed for the walking insult you are. Sun Tui - they'll be calling you burnt toast by Wednesday!
6/20/2008 3:33 AM UTC
Lol, pathetic. Ppl like you dont even get it, so I wont begin to address your commentary. The ignorant will live and die that way by their own will to stay so. Its funny how most ppl who comment the way you have havent ever so much as broken a fingernail to help the under dog, but wanna down veterans who are trying to save the lives of innocent soilders dying everyday and commiting genocide and are subjected to mental trauma and suicide. But they're the bad guys-yea ok. Double think me to death why dontcha-visa versa right. Lmao.
6/20/2008 1:46 AM UTC
I think I have the right because the Constitution says I do! What are you, Chinese? This is a free country - that means I have the freedom to speak power to impotence - namely you ingrate! You want to lie about America? Lie about the soldiers that brave the dangers to secure the rights you are so ignorant of? Then do so with the knowledge that you shame the service you once represented. You prostitute it's honor like a bow-legged harlot. One day you'll realize that to stand in front of adoring leftists slandering your brothers in arms makes you a small man among men. Peace out Genghis!
6/19/2008 7:19 PM UTC
Why do you think you have the right to come on my page and disrespect me? I do not no you nor have I ever been on your page b4 now so why are you coming on mine spewing your ignorance. Why dont you get off your ass and go fight for Bushs war profiteering instead of sitting in an air conditioned location getting on your radio showing spewing bullshyt. Its funny they make innocent young people go to war, when they should send the old ugly spirited hate mongers out there because we could use a whole lot less of you so if you came back in a box no one would miss your a**. Have a great day.
TopCast
6/11/2008 2:51 PM UTC
Let freedom ring. Semper Fi
4/27/2008 7:21 AM UTC
I'am just checking out all the conservative voices out there. Thanks for being out there! I just started putting my voice out there.
No Compromise
4/17/2008 8:48 PM UTC
PV, I wanted to say Thanks for getting on my Test Show at No Compromise Radio! Tracy
4/10/2008 11:09 PM UTC
Thanks for checking out our last Show!!!
Patriot Action
4/8/2008 8:43 PM UTC
Don't forget the new Patriot Action starts tonight at 7 pm CST!
Flatliners
4/4/2008 7:01 AM UTC
thank you for your support..
4/2/2008 4:32 PM UTC
Patriot Action is back with a whole new format. Check us out Tuesday and Thursday nights at 7 pm CST.
Jacob Gold
3/26/2008 4:43 PM UTC
Thanks a lot for your call-in the day of Obama's pathetic speech. You were really incredible. I'd love to return the favor soon.
DarcPrynce
3/26/2008 12:54 AM UTC
LEGACY A poem by Edward L. Daley Oh say do you recall his shining city on the hill Though strained and scarred by wickedness, that city stands here still A proud and grateful people watched his strength illuminate her That beautiful, bright city of the Great Communicator A president, a statesman, and a leader for all time But more than these, a friend to truth, to faith and things sublime One who's will could not be shaken by his grim detractors One among so few of liberty's great benefactors And can you hear the words that made so many spirits soar They echo through the corridors of history and yore It's morning in America, new hope for one and all We'll live the creed of peace through strength; we can tear down that wall A warrior for freedom, his bold vision cast a glow That ever since has lit the path along which good men go And though the years have fled, and to a better place he's gone The memory of his honor and his courage still lives on Oh say now can you see that shining city on the hill To those who haven't seen it yet, I pray someday you will For never in this world before has one so greatly flourished Nor ever have a people had their dreams as fully nourished So many leaders over time have lived and passed away Yet few have left a legacy as grand as his today A champion to common folk, uncommon for his station Ronald Wilson Reagan died a hero to our nation
Neokhan
3/9/2008 11:46 PM UTC
Thanks for listening, and the comments and rating :)
3/9/2008 2:04 PM UTC
thanks for listening and the rating..
DJKlasna
2/19/2008 9:03 PM UTC
Another great show Shane and Frank. You two are always changing it up and giving us something to think about. I love your chat room as well, except for a few trolls like Kris and Reasons. More conversation and less thuggish personal attacks please!
Gorilla News Radio
1/30/2008 4:04 AM UTC
Great show. Good interview. You rock.
Deb 'n Ohio
1/6/2008 3:34 AM UTC
Shane, Your encouragement could not have come at a more opportune time; thank you muchly. Your show is one of my "fav favs" which, as you know, I discovered only after you became a BTR (small g)od! :)
1/4/2008 9:27 PM UTC
This show rocks. Shane and Frank work together well and it doesn't talk about everything that all the other shows are talking about. Great guests too! I especially liked that interview with Humberto Fontova - was that guy drinking beers during the show? It was awesome! Keep it up Political Vindication!
Women Wealth Network
12/18/2007 10:11 AM UTC
Wow! :)
Wild Phil
12/10/2007 6:49 PM UTC
Hi Guy's and Gal's Vicki from Not Ready For My Burqa is a good Conservative Lady and I have been visiting and commenting on her blog http://noburqua.blogspot.com for quite some time, she will be a good interview. PV I'm glad that you folks are going to be Interviewing Vicki she does care about this issue with passion. Vicki and her family are good people.
Reform America Radio
12/9/2007 10:02 PM UTC
Thank you for your call. We had a really good conversation going too bad we ran out of time. I feel that in regards to military issues and Iraq we differ a lot less than you may have initially thought. Feel free to call our show anytime.
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The murders at Fort Hood outrage us all, but when the heart calms, we have to ask ourselves some hard questions. Join us tonight as we talk about who is really to blame for the Fort Hood Massacre.
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Last night on BlogTalkRadio there occurred the first widely anticipated debate between the left and the right. On the liberal side were Martin from Radio Free Nation Radio, Scott from One Black Man Radio, and Mrs. V, from Mrs. V On The Scene Radio. On the conservative side, it was Shane (Evrviglnt) and Frank (Uncle Seth) from Political Vindication Radio and Josh Allem from the JPA Live Show. We debated the War On Terror, Abortion, Education and What We Love About America. The eminently capable Doc Mo from The Dangerzone Show moderated.
The War on Terror topic proved a little less than what I had expected. I took the speakers box first and delivered, hastily, my introduction - you can read it at Politicalvindication.com. Scott from One Black Man opposed me, and set off on a rambling message about George Bush, conspiracy, and the American appetite for killing brown people. He was channeling Alex Jones, the man who thinks we've got concentration camps in America. I'll admit that our team predicted that Scott would go conspiratorial, that's his M.O., but I was still disappointed. The debate turned into a Ron Paul/David Patraeus scrap that had One Black Man hurling charges and wallowing about in the fever swamps of Bush Derangement Syndrome. He repeated Seymour Hersh's speculation from his article 'Preparing the Battlefield' that accused America of trying to destabilize Iran by "seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of “high-value targets” in the President’s war on terror, who may be captured or killed." Wha...? I thought that's what we're supposed to be doing! Iran has been killing Americans for 30 years, and the prospect that the US tip of the spear has made finally contact with the Middle East's most lethal gang of state sponsored killers has me expecting peace throughout the Middle East real soon. Scotty spent a lot of time playing armchair general - cherry picking assumptions from five years ago that were reasonable to assume when 9/11 was still a fresh reminder of our failure to respect the enemy. To counter him I brought up the Rockefeller report, the Democratic hatchet job that reads like a thriller and ends with utter betrayal - a long list of statements and positions of President Bush and his administration leading up to war found as "substantiated by intelligence community estimates." Marty said I was cherry picking from the report, but my point was that even a one-sided witch hunt couldn't prove a conspiracy that President Bush lied us into Iraq - which was the seminal charge by Scott. The intelligence estimates that the Administration received and forwarded onto Democrats and Republicans read the same for both liberals and conservatives - and the quotes of Democrats upon voting for the Joint Resolution to Authorize Force reveal rare agreement concerning Iraq, it's lethal potential and the need for regime change. Hillary Clinton said of the vote that "any vote that might lead to war... should be hard. But I cast it with conviction." George Bush did not lie us into war, America didn't deserve 9/11, and we are living up to the ideals of our founders - This is about life and liberty and the rejection of tyranny, ideals that once inspired this nation to its own revolution. Listen to the rest of the segment for more of the same.
The second issue was on abortion - and it was more a spirited conversation than a disagreement. We were all pro-life, and Josh began with a personal story about his evolving position on abortion, from apathy to firm resolve that it is murder. Josh possesses a down to earth common sense that is brings a lot of clarity to complex issues, so it’s always productive to listen to him. Mrs. V was tiger-focused and detailed in her studied dissection of what abortion represented and how it gained such a foothold. She has a lawyerly quality about her, and I admired the eloquence and then the anxious passion that drove her. We did touch upon Barack Obama's position on abortion, and we provide a link here about his unwillingness to oppose killing of infants mistakenly left alive by abortion. The discussion was interesting, and much was said about all aspects of the life issue, from conception to stem cell research.
The Education issue rang the fight bell and we were quickly back in the ring throwing haymakers. Frank jumped the ropes and said it out loud - liberalism was the problem, vouchers were the solution! He railed against the politicization of education, derided the follies of liberal fads, and questioned the shifting priorities of government and culture. Martin from Radio Free Nation spoke for the liberals and in many ways agreed with Frank that education was suffering, but then proceeded to explain to everyone that conservatives, and Frank in particular wanted an end to public education - a position we were the last to be notified of. Martin took the predictable course and blamed racism for the low performance of some communities, and it wasn't until Mrs. V shouldered her way into the debate and demanded answers as to why funding varied from rich to poor (giving many answers herself) that we got down to brass tacks. It begged the question - understanding that while money is important - does it guarantee success? The night sky lit up and the rest of the segment was rockin'.
The last subject was about America. Josh spoke passionately about the religious founding of this country, and his pride that America remains a God fearing and God loving country - it's where we find our moral center, and the inspiration for the common decency that makes this country a world leader, regardless of power. Frank introduced us to his father by describing wartime Sicily during WWII, where the man went from dodging bomb explosions to walking the streets of mainstreet America and creating a new life and a new family in a new land. The values that drove his father made America appear as the land of opportunity, and though he endured bigotry as an immigrant, he never lost sight of the potential that sparkled around him. His son Frank is a living testament to his father's optimism, and he believes that America has a lot to do with that. I talked for a few rushed minutes about the American experiment, and how proud I was to be surrounded by people from all over the world who were being schooled in the successes of freedom. The liberal team Began with Martin, who delivered a speech reminding us all of America's flickering hope and its many failures, and the looming spectre of racism that hampered the dream for so many. Mrs. V was emphatic - she loved this country. There were problems, but it was obvious that it was gonna take more than that to stop this woman - her moment on the lectern was a reflection of strength and drive. I think we all ought to follow her career. Then there was Scott’s perspective. Bitter. Defensive. Insecure. Our civil rights are being shredded, war abounds, laws ignored, Bush is Hitler. Wha...? There’s a reason why nobody takes conspiracy theorists seriously - because history to them is like a Jelly donut they suck the context out of. To be unable to tell the difference between a mass murdering megalomaniac that darkened the world with Nazism and George Bush, who keeps asking permission from the United Nations to stand against encroaching Islamo-fascist terrorists or North Korean nuko-communists, reveals a perspective that begins with a healthy skepticism of government but festers into a racialist paranoia surrounded by Ray-Ban wearing enemies intent on murdering us all. It's the Alex Jones effect. Needless to say, that wadded up spitball of putrescent patriotism slimed the walls and the lectern was burned to ashes along with any civility that might have survived the insults that flew freely.
Who won? I think it was a three subjects to none victory for the conservatives, with the abortion issue a draw considering we each added to our conviction that all life deserves protection. In the War On Terror issue Scott merely hurled accusations that we spent our time debunking. The fascinating aspects of strategy, foreign policy and the future of the Middle East were never mentioned. In the state of education debate liberalism was not defended, instead partisanship itself was assailed (as if that were the issue), and ultimately the lack of money was blamed. But as we argued forcefully - money without a community that prioritizes education will mean wasted funds on failing schools. Money is not the first issue we need to address - accountability is. And finally on the last topic America, the conservatives showed themselves to love this country flaws and all, and were optimistic about its future. The Blue team tended to bemoan the obstacles ahead and rue the failure of America to confront those deep rooted malignancies. History paralyzes many on the left from working up the gumption to use the disgraceful record of American racism as motivation for greatness. Will an Obama presidency change that? Some on the right are desperate enough to heal divisions that they will vote for change. The next question will be whether anybody is willing to...
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