Chat from MUSICWOMAN with Robert Steinback - Karaoke - Nov 25, 2009

 

 

*** (10:11:53):Welcome to the MUSICWOMAN Chat Room.
MUSICWOMAN says (10:12:52):
Karaoke is a form of interactive entertainment or video game in which amateur singers sing along with recorded music (and/or a music video) using a microphone and public address system. The music is typically a well-known pop song minus the lead vocal.
MUSICWOMAN says (10:13:11):
Lyrics are usually displayed on a video screen, along with a moving symbol or changing color and/or music video images, to guide the singer.
MUSICWOMAN says (10:13:40):
 In some countries, a karaoke box is called a KTV. Due to its English pronunciation, it is sometimes incorrectly spelled "kareoke".
MUSICWOMAN says (10:13:59):
It is also a term used by recording engineers translated as "empty track" meaning there is no vocal track.
MUSICWOMAN says (10:14:46):
Today's guest is Robert Steinback, The crowned King of Karaoke in South Florida who joins Diva JC to discuss this musical phenomenon that originated in Japan.
MUSICWOMAN says (10:20:01):
The concept of creating studio recordings that lack the lead vocal has been around for probably nearly as long as recording itself. Many artists, amateur and professional, perform in situations where a full band/orchestra is either logistically or financially impractical and so they use a "karaoke" recording, but they are actually the original artists.

From 1961–1966, the American TV network NBC carried a karaoke-like series, Sing Along with Mitch, featuring host Mitch Miller and a chorus with the lyrics to their songs superimposed near the bottom of the TV screen for home audience participation.
MUSICWOMAN says (10:21:57): For more information go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaoke
MUSICWOMAN says (10:26:42):
There are various disputes about who first invented the name karaoke. One claim is that the karaoke styled machine was invented by Japanese musician Daisuke Inoue[3] in Kobe, Japan, in 1971. After becoming popular in Japan, karaoke spread to East and Southeast Asia during the 1980s and subsequently to other parts of the world. Inoue never bothered to patent his invention, losing his chance to become one of Japan's richest men.

Roberto del Rosario, a Filipino inventor who developed a sing along system in 1975 and patented it in the 1980s called his sing-along system "Minus-One", now holds the patent for the device now commonly known as the "karaoke machine". The spread of "Minus-One" music would have been attributed to a few Filipinos who brought with them their music wherever they go and a few went to Japan as entertainers during the early part of this decade. Following a court battle with a Japanese company which claimed to have invented the system, del Rosario's patents were issued in 1983 and 1986, a decade after the device was supposedly invented

Karaoke soon spread to the rest of Asia and then (back) to the United States in the 1990s, as well as to Canada, Australia and other Western countries. In-home karaoke machines soon followed but lacked success in the US and Canadian markets. When creators became aware of this problem, karaoke machines were no longer being sold strictly for the purpose of karaoke but as home theater systems to enhance television watching to "movie theater like quality". Home theater systems took off, and karaoke went from being the main purpose of the stereo system, to a side feature. As more music became available for karaoke machines, more people within the industry saw karaoke as a profitable form of lounge and nightclub entertainment.

It is not uncommon for some bars to have karaoke performances seven nights a week, commonly with much more high-end sound equipment than the small, stand-alone consumer versions. Dance floors and lighting effects are also becoming common sights in karaoke bars. Lyrics are often displayed on multiple TV screens around the bar.

Yet again another battle on patent infringement continued on with another company. Posthumously awarded in favour of Roberto del Rosario under G.R. No. 115106, March 15, 1996 of the Supreme Court filed on January 18, 1993, it was a final victory for his family members a couple of decades after the first patent was enforced. A basic karaoke machine consists of a music player, microphone inputs, a means of altering the pitch of the played music, and an audio output. [Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaoke ]

Some low-end machines attempt to provide vocal suppression so that one can feed regular songs into the machine and suppress the voice of the original singer; however, this is rarely effective. Common machines are CD+G, Laser Disc, VCD or DVD players with microphone inputs and an audio mixer built in. CD+G players use a special track called subcode to encode the lyrics and pictures displayed on the screen while other formats natively display both audio and video. Most karaoke machines have technology that electronically changes the pitch of the music so amateur singers can sing along to any music source by choosing a key that is appropriate for their vocal range, while maintaining the original tempo of the song.

A popular game using karaoke is to type in a random number and call up a song, of which participants take turns to try to sing as much as they can. In some machines, this game is pre-programmed and may be limited to a genre so that they cannot call up an obscure national anthem that none of the participants can sing.

MUSICWOMAN says (12:29:44): hello Antoine!
AntoineSmith says to  (12:29:50): Hello...
MUSICWOMAN says (12:29:53): Matador, is this Robert??
MUSICWOMAN says (12:30:05): Jace call in when you want
matador20 says to  (12:30:14): Yes, Matador is Robert Steinback
The Venus Revolution says to  (12:30:32): Okay.
AntoineSmith says to  (12:36:13): So right...
AntoineSmith says to  (12:53:54): Hmmmm
MUSICWOMAN says (12:54:55): PLAYLIST: OPERATOR, DIAMONDS ON THE SOLES OF HER SHOES, ALL IS FAIR IN LOVE sung by Robert Steinback
AntoineSmith says to  (12:55:16): Oh...okay
MUSICWOMAN says (12:55:54): Franz Baron is a KJ for 20 years
AntoineSmith says to  (12:56:08): Really....
AntoineSmith says to  (12:56:44): I don't know anything about Karaoke, but you show is interesting...

AntoineSmith says to  (12:58:02): You are right...and software too
AntoineSmith says to  (12:58:11): Midi
AntoineSmith says to  (13:00:43): Oh, patton laws...I get it
MUSICWOMAN says (13:01:22): PATENT LAWS
AntoineSmith says to  (13:01:39): Oh...patent
MUSICWOMAN says (13:01:42): what software and hardware do you use, Antoine, to make your music?
AntoineSmith says to  (13:02:21): Pro-tools, Garage Band, and some others
AntoineSmith says to  (13:04:06): I even used my mom's Dat machine to record and the digital recorder for her music.
AntoineSmith says to  (13:04:57): I don't like all white keys...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:05:05): I am taking theory now...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:05:21): He's right...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:05:41): Right...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:06:02): You are right...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:06:44): I love learning about the intervals...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:07:12): My mom tells me that...LOL
MUSICWOMAN says (13:10:49): Antoine, what is the equivalent of a "patent" for a musical composition?
MUSICWOMAN says (13:15:30): ZOOT SUIT RIOT sung by Robert Steinback
matador20 says to  (13:17:48): I recorded the tracks you're hearing at a professional studio, so I had the benefit of a skilled audio engineer who definitely improved the sound and the mix of the final recording.
MUSICWOMAN says (13:18:03): Cherry Poppin' Daddies
MUSICWOMAN says (13:18:07): Swing Era
MUSICWOMAN says (13:18:28): Please answer the question above.
MUSICWOMAN says (13:24:32): Antoine, what is the equivalent of a "patent" for a musical composition?
MUSICWOMAN says (13:27:34): SOUTHERN CROSS sung by Robert Steinback
AntoineSmith says to  (13:27:44): A general object of the invention is the electronic display of musical notes, which can be downloaded from the Internet and which can be annotated by musicians and conductor.
MUSICWOMAN says (13:27:46): SAND STORM by Antoine Smith
AntoineSmith says to  (13:28:17): Quiet Storm...
MUSICWOMAN says (13:28:33): OK, but you do not get a patent to protect your musical invention. What DO you get?
matador20 says to  (13:28:42): What a great composition, Antoine! Is that you on sax?
MUSICWOMAN says (13:28:50): Who is playing the saxophone on this tune, Antoine???
AntoineSmith says to  (13:28:51): No...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:29:09): Hold on...lol
MUSICWOMAN says (13:29:13): oh, the song is entitled QUIET STORM???
AntoineSmith says to  (13:29:24): Yes...
matador20 says to  (13:29:39): You wrote it?
AntoineSmith says to  (13:29:50): Do you mean this song that is playing now?
matador20 says to  (13:30:05): Yes... Musicwoman said the song is by Antoine Smith...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:30:07): This is not my song...
MUSICWOMAN says (13:30:16): ooops, no idea who this is then
matador20 says to  (13:30:22): Oh, my bad LOL
MUSICWOMAN says (13:30:23): will need to do a little research
AntoineSmith says to  (13:30:33): No...lol  Don't worry...
MUSICWOMAN says (13:30:46): oh, it's Amanda Sedgwick, I clicked the wrong thing
MUSICWOMAN says (13:30:52): Myyyyyyyyyyy Baddddddddddddddddddd
AntoineSmith says to  (13:30:54): Okay...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:31:04): You are okay in my book...lol
MUSICWOMAN says (13:31:04): see, I'm not perfect
MUSICWOMAN says (13:31:07): LOL
MUSICWOMAN says (13:31:13): now, answer the question
MUSICWOMAN says (13:31:18): Antoine, what is the equivalent of a "patent" for a musical composition?
matador20 says to  (13:31:22): Oh, NOW you tell me LOL
AntoineSmith says to  (13:31:28): Right...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:33:07): Is that when you send in for copyright through the Library of Congress?  Or, the po man style with the post office date sending back to your home.
AntoineSmith says to  (13:33:23): Yea...lol
MUSICWOMAN says (13:33:32): yesssssssssss COPYRIGHT
AntoineSmith says to  (13:34:00): Thank you...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:34:13): Yea...he should write...lol
AntoineSmith says to  (13:35:14): LOL
MUSICWOMAN says (13:35:13): no, it is SAND STORM by Amanda Sedgwick
AntoineSmith says to  (13:35:23): Okay, got it
MUSICWOMAN says (13:35:30): I'll play FEEL THE VIBE by Antoine Smith in a minute
AntoineSmith says to  (13:35:40): No problem...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:36:04): Bert or Burt Bakarack?
AntoineSmith says to  (13:37:45): I meant bert bacharach
MUSICWOMAN says (13:38:07): what? Bert wrote Quiet Storm?
AntoineSmith says to  (13:38:18): No...I liked his writing...
The Venus Revolution says to  (13:38:28): Got knocked off the internet.
MUSICWOMAN says (13:38:39): yes, he wrote most of the songs Dionne Warwick sang in the beginning of her career
AntoineSmith says to  (13:38:41): Oh...glad to see you back...
MUSICWOMAN says (13:38:45): welcome back Jace
The Venus Revolution says to  (13:39:05): Thanks.
AntoineSmith says to  (13:39:24): This show is really good because you define everything...Musicwoman
AntoineSmith says to  (13:39:36): Like a Teacher...
MUSICWOMAN says (13:39:41): LONELIBLUE by Joan Cartwright was first JUST ONE MORE LOVE POEM
MUSICWOMAN says (13:39:57): Then, I put it to music similar to SUMMERTIME
AntoineSmith says to  (13:40:18): So you love writing the words first and then music?
MUSICWOMAN says (13:40:17): Now playing, FEEL THE VIBE by Antoine Smith
The Venus Revolution says to  (13:40:22): Learned quite a bit about karaoke singing.  And received confirmation on some of my thoughts about it as a professional vocalist.
AntoineSmith says to  (13:40:29): Thank you...
MUSICWOMAN says (13:40:45): no lyrics, Antoine do you ever write songs with lyrics?
AntoineSmith says to  (13:40:47): Really...karaoke
matador20 says to  (13:40:52): That was terrific! I'd love to hear a show about how composers and lyricists go through the steps of creating a new piece
AntoineSmith says to  (13:41:03): Only for other artist, but not for me
The Venus Revolution says to  (13:41:13): AND I agree with Robert, FrankSinatra was NOT a great singer!!
The Venus Revolution says to  (13:41:37): :D
AntoineSmith says to  (13:41:37): Well, I admire all
matador20 says to  (13:41:38): Nice piece, Antoine!
AntoineSmith says to  (13:41:44): Thank you...
MUSICWOMAN says (13:41:51): Hey maybe we'll do that next week since I don't have any guests for December. I'm going to the Bahamas from Dec 7-15. I was just going to do a musical best plays show next week to play the whole month of December
AntoineSmith says to  (13:42:10): Sounds really good...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:42:29): That would be a good show, I mean't
MUSICWOMAN says (13:42:37): Great rhythm here, Antoine
AntoineSmith says to  (13:42:51): That was hard for me...lol
MUSICWOMAN says (13:42:59): ok, will all of you join me next week? I'll try to line up a couple of songwriters
AntoineSmith says to  (13:43:10): I had to think left field out of range for the vibes...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:43:23): Yes, I wil...
matador20 says to  (13:43:24): NPR did something recently pairing up two musicians of different styles and telling them to write a song. I only caught a part of it but it was fascinating.
MUSICWOMAN says (13:43:24): so, how did you write this? did you create the rhythm line first, then add the melody?
MUSICWOMAN says (13:43:40): hmmm, that does sound interesting
AntoineSmith says to  (13:44:03): Well, I wrote the drum patterns first
MUSICWOMAN says (13:44:13): wrote or programmed???
AntoineSmith says to  (13:44:21): Then, I pieced the piano secondly
The Venus Revolution says to  (13:44:23): Just finished writing a song to some music. Technology allows us to communicate through mp3s. I'm enjoying the process.
AntoineSmith says to  (13:44:51): Drums, I went down stairs to play the set first and then programmed it from my memory...
MUSICWOMAN says (13:45:09): played it on the drums???
matador20 says to  (13:45:18): Aren't there people now composing music digitally who can't play any instrument at all?
The Venus Revolution says to  (13:45:34): Yes.
AntoineSmith says to  (13:45:39): No, I had to play my set to get the feel of what type of beat I wanted first...
MUSICWOMAN says (13:45:46): Hip Hop is recorded that way
AntoineSmith says to  (13:46:05): Then, I went into the studio to program it from the keyboards and drum machine...
matador20 says to  (13:46:21): That's probably more of a threat to musicians than karaoke. Karaoke is nothing more than a pick-up basketball game LOL
AntoineSmith says to  (13:46:35): Later, I used the software to synchronize it...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:47:01): LOL
AntoineSmith says to  (13:48:03): You guys are good...
AntoineSmith says to  (13:51:00): My mom says that she wants the band feel.  Karaoke is okay, but not the same...LOL
D.A. (WDKK RADIO) says to  (13:51:25): Hello all, sorry I am late
AntoineSmith says to  (13:51:35): Hey...man!
AntoineSmith says to  (13:51:46): This is show is so good...
D.A. (WDKK RADIO) says to  (13:52:00): will have to catch the archive
AntoineSmith says to  (13:52:08): Yes...
D.A. (WDKK RADIO) says to  (13:52:24): hello Musicwoman, Venus Revolution, matador
matador20 says to  (13:52:51): make no mistake... karaoke is for amateurs!
AntoineSmith says to  (13:53:13): Good, I am not a Co-Host with Tony Qwade on Light 08.
AntoineSmith says to  (13:53:19): Yes, hold on...
matador20 says to  (13:54:24): robert@robertsteinback.com
AntoineSmith says to  (13:54:28): http://www.blogtalkradio.com/light08/2009/12/05/nyt-flyte-jazz-meltdown
MUSICWOMAN says (13:54:43): www.blogtalkradio.com/musicwoman.rss
MUSICWOMAN says (13:54:49): divajc47@yahoo.com
MUSICWOMAN says (13:54:54): www.musicwoman.ning.com
MUSICWOMAN says (13:55:01): www.musicwoman.wordpress.com
MUSICWOMAN says (13:55:14): Robert, what's your wordpress link?
matador20 says to  (13:55:21): This was great fun! Thanks to all who listened in.
AntoineSmith says to  (13:55:29): Or just keep this in general link: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/light08
MUSICWOMAN says (13:55:29): D.A. please put your show rss here
MUSICWOMAN says (13:55:49): Antoine, add ".rss" at the end and all your shows will come up
The Venus Revolution says to  (13:56:00): Thanks, Joan.  D.A. I'll send my information to you today!
AntoineSmith says to  (13:56:02): Okay...
MUSICWOMAN says (13:56:02): Jace, what's your show link???
matador20 says to  (13:56:04): It isn't active at the moment. It'll be robertsteinback.com, but there is nothing there at the moment.
D.A. (WDKK RADIO) says to  (13:56:36): www.blogtalkradio.com/wdkk-radio.rss
MUSICWOMAN says (13:56:41): so, put the link to this show there. I'll send it to you again. It's in the email I sent to you earlier
The Venus Revolution says to  (13:56:46): http://www.blogtalkradio.com/venusrevolution
MUSICWOMAN says (13:56:56): My workshop info is at www.fyicomminc.com/workshops.htm
D.A. (WDKK RADIO) says to  (13:57:04): OK thanks
MUSICWOMAN says (13:57:13): See also my MUSICAL WORKSHOPS and tell others. I'm touring NY in March
MUSICWOMAN says (13:57:26): March 4 I'm at York College in Jamaica, NY
AntoineSmith says to  (13:57:34): This link goes to my page:  http://www.blogtalkradio.com/antoinesmith.rss
MUSICWOMAN says (13:57:42): March 5 at Langston Hughes Library
MUSICWOMAN says (13:57:53): Thanks everyone for supporting our show!!!!
AntoineSmith says to  (13:57:57): The workshop sounds really good for me, for sure
The Venus Revolution says to  (13:58:12): Good day all and Happy Holidays!
AntoineSmith says to  (13:58:20): You as well...
matador20 says to  (13:58:39): Likewise.. be well all.
AntoineSmith says to  (13:59:50): I have a new video out for the holiday, please check it out at: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=100886905
MUSICWOMAN says (14:00:09): If you know women who compose their own music, please send them my way
AntoineSmith says to  (14:00:43): I have a family friend that would love that, Shawn Morrison.
MUSICWOMAN says (14:00:43): OK, will look at it. See all our videos at www.youtube.com/divajc and videos of our recent concerts at www.floridajazznetwork.com/fjnvideos.htm
AntoineSmith says to  (14:01:03): Okay, I will look at yours...
MUSICWOMAN says (14:01:04): Love all of you!!!!

Diva JC