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  L.C.G.H. Episode 17- with Alex Rondini of Phantom Magazine

  L.C.G.H.

  Date / Time: 2/7/2009 5:00 AM UTC

  Category: Paranormal

  
  

  Current News, Theories, Experiences, Upcoming Events or Whatever Comes Up! Call- Ins Are Always Welcomed! Tonight we will have Alex Rondini of Phantom Magazine on. I first met Alex on Nocturnal Frequency. Which is here on blogtalk and hosted by Steven Geiner of Southern Ontario Paranormal Society! Which is another person and show you must check out! Alex's online magazine focuses on the philosophical aspects in paranormal research. So, this show most definitely will be interesting. You can find out more on Alex at- www.phantomezine.com www.myspace.com/phantommagazine Afterthought- Another great night as usual. And what other show will start off with Dimmu Borgir! I mean come on! If you ain't listenin live. You is missin' out! Either way. Alex was great and was awesome to have had time to do a one on one type thing. He is great and its also great to have a "paranormal" magazine base most of its content on a philosophical stand point. Also, great music. You gotta hear what you missed!

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  Date / Time: 3/30/2008 6:24 PM UTC

  RE: [WillCountyGhostHuntersSociety] Re: Your Favorite Paranormal TV show?

  The only good paranormal show would be "Sightings".Hands down! Too bad it doesn't exist anymore.I don't like "Ghost Hunters" anymore, they can besloppy in their techniques and sometimes the evidencethey claim that is paranormal, should be like acceptedby the science community by now. Examples for me wouldbe with the thermo-imaging camera! The images theyhave gotten on there have surprised me. But, when youreally think about it, its just all script. Even thestories, oh my god! For me as a fellowhunter/investigator, I feel that they should be betterthan that or least sci-fi should really go scientificand not just bring in some guys that are plumbers togo "ghost hunting". Now of course, I wouldn't mindhaving a show  to do the same. I will give them creditfor lasting and introducing the subject to the masseson a "ghost hunting" level.  I sill watch it causethere are still good episodes at times! We can't gettoo highly of ourselves!Paranormal State is o.k.! I like the psychologicalaspect they bring and the metaphysical as well. But,sometimes it gets to psychological and doesn't bringanything paranormal to the plate. They do have auniversity to back them but at the same time, we arestill stuck on the whole "ghost hunting" level, notscientific! A lot of shows or groups claim to be trulyscientific but that is never the case. If anythingthey add scientific aspects to an investigation andnot truly be scientific. This point is something Imade in my last post about the "new ideas"!  I myselfwould like a show to actually do both styles ofresearch and present them as such. Not what iscomfortable to the masses. But, I do still watch theirshow and they come hit and misses for me. I ratherwatch this over Ghost Hunters!The other show do the same pretty much so my opinionwould be the same. I would have to agree with Matt onthe Most Haunted and other show related to thosechannels. And all this night shot mess, it can be aheadache. I personally, don't see a valid reason toshut the lights off during an investigation. I don'tthink ghosts" like lights off better than lights on orbetween day and night. Only thing would be justelectrical interference and of course filming(lightingand photography, but you can get more reflective focalpoints in the dark better than light, thats why orbsor other anomalies show up better, in my opinion!) ormood purposes!I kind of like Scariest Places on Earth, they at leastshow some activity depending on the way the episode isbeing directed, thats another point for all of theseshows. God the cheese and writing of these shows andthey are trying to catch people interests. I rather attimes watch "The Universe" on the history channel whenit comes to the "paranormal".Also, remember Fear on MTV, that could have been good,if once again , the whole mood set wasn't involved.Telling them its haunted or the dares. Thats allsubjective! Why do they let this happen! SIghtings my friends, an investigative news style,thats the best!Justin VillarrealFounder of L.C.G.H.lakecountyghosthunters@yahoo.comhttp://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/LCGHhttp://www.myspace.com/lakecountyghosthunters

  
  
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• Date / Time: 3/30/2008 5:32 PM UTC

  Re: What is your personal best paranormal experience?

  Hi all, Ok, my best paranormal story has 3 parts.  My memory goes way back. I mean I can remember a scene in our apartment with me in a crib looking through and my father and mother watching t.v. on the bed! So, this particularly happened on the South east side of Chicago. Thats originally where I am from, the hood, ha ha ha!  We were going to my aunt’s place for some event. I was very young. About 5 or 7 yrs old. Could be earlier.  But, for some reason, I had always got this strange feeling every time we came upon this street. My aunt Marie’s place is where this happened. It was a big yard and a decent size apartment building. Old style kind. The ones that looked like big houses. We were in the yard and for some reason I kept on sensing a presence of a child. I never saw one of course that led me to this conclusion. Plus, I was very young, and new nothing of the world ahead of me or anything connected to this place. But, the sense of a child was in my head and a can remember something about the basement as well. Maybe, thats where he died or something, who knows! So, i was sensing this kid and I was walking towards the back of the house where the alley was. Thats where I saw a weird woman standing outside of the gangway to the alley. She had black hair, dark eyes, and light skin. She even wore a white dress. Classic description of a female ghost! At least from the many stories I have read. She didn’t scare me nor did anything more than stand at this gate, outside of the yard in the alley. No one else saw her of course. She just disappeared! Never saw her again! Or even got the feeling of the little boy. My aunt lived there for at least a year during this time and I have been over many times prior and post this experience. This experience took place at night, I forgot! So, that is the first part and the next happened in my pre-teens. All of this is connected of course. I must have been between 11-13 yrs. old. We moved from Chicago to Zion and during this time we were visiting our family in Chicago almost an every other weekend type of event. We are a huge family. My Mother comes from a family of 3 brothers and 6 sisters. And we are all close to each other. Plus, we are hispanic and a lot of paranormal and superstitious beliefs flow freely and experiences like these are taken lightly almost second nature. Oh man, sorry I am going off on a tangent that is somewhat connected to my research and the paranormal.The Sociological aspect to the paranormal. I will get into that later! Sorry!  So, we are making frequent trips down to Chicago now. We usually stay at someone’s place for the night. I have another story that is connected to our trips back to Chicago! We decided to stay at my Uncle Nacho and Tia Chris’s place. Which is seriously on the same street as the first experience! This house gave me the creeps when we first arrived. But, we walked in and got ready for the night. It was kind of old as well, with some holes in certain walls and on a personal note, there was a lot of negative energy over all. Lets just say that my aunt and uncle, for as long as I can remember, never really got along. Also, alcoholism plays a big part in my family. So you get the point. Things like this also contribute to my research. We can’t forget the psychological aspects of the paranormal. I take all things in account when I deal with such events. True researcher I am! I think! lol! The house has 2 stories and a basement. Before I go any further. I have 2 brothers and one sister, plus my mother is a foster parent to other kids. My younger brother is adopted (he is a baby at this time) I forget what kids we had, but we should have had some, we did for years, she still does now! So I go upstairs and this is my cousin Tony’s room. It’s actually an attic split into 2 separate rooms. My cousins room and a door that opened to the actual storage space of the attic. I noticed through the cracks of the wall separating them, a light on in the storage part! Didn’t really think anything of it other than the fact that the whole house gave me the creeps. I lay down on his bed (he is not home at the time) which would be on the south east end of this room. The door to the storage is on the north end and next to the stairs. Its about 10 or near 11p.m. at this time. I am by myself everyone else is downstairs somewhere. I must have dozed off for about an hour and a half to an hour. I had a watch on me. I wake up and I believe it is midnight (the starting of a ghost story how coincidental). I try to go back to sleep when I hear distinct "footsteps" coming from the north end to the side of the bed. I even got a weird feeling before this, like wide awake for this moment! Another note to research on ghost stories. So, it stopped at the side of the bed and I looked over my shoulder as much as a could without letting it know that I was awake? I don’t know I did what I did. I noticed nothing! Nothing! And the footsteps never left! From what I could remember. I just tried to ignore it and believed it never happened. Wishing to fall back asleep and wake up in the morning! I wake up again for the second time and now have my cousin sleeping next to me. i was facing the wall for every moment of this experience.I look at my watch again, I believe it was between 4a.m. and 5a.m. I think it was really around 4:30 a.m. Now I felt safe and more comfort to stay asleep. Still a little shaken but at least I am not alone now. I finally wake up, I think it was around 10a.m. or so. I’m ready to ask questions actually. Always have been interested in the paranormal. Forever, Like I was born to do this. If you are interested in the zodiac, I am a true scorpio! Respect it very much-Nov. 5th. I went to my aunt and asked if someone came up at such and such time? She states that she came up a little after 1 a.m. to check in and make sure I was sleeping o.k. I said,you sure it wasn’t around midnight? She states it was around 1 a.m. She asks, why am I asking all these questions? Then I tell her the whole mess I told you. She then proceeds to tell me about a wonderful story of "invisible" kids jumping on their bed and weird noises, even more kid sounds. She tried to wake up my uncle but he actually would sleep so deep that he would not even notice this event. Another note in research. It runs in the family. My girlfriend can tell you how good I can sleep when I actually get to sleep! So, she doesn’t finish! There is even a time when her, my cousin and his girlfriend at the time were sitting in the living room watching t.v. This also is where the stairs are located to the second floor. There must have been a birthday party or something at the time of this story. For some reason there was a red balloon in the living room. All of a sudden, its starts traveling up the stairs to the second floor. I never get to even experience stuff like that. They were freaked out for sure! What put the icing on the cake was the findings in the basement of this house. A family member from my aunt’s side owns the house. They were replacing floor boards in the basement when they found bones! Yes! One of those stories! I was almost going crazy in my head to be part of such chaos. They didn’t remove the bones, because they thought it to be disrespectful to do so. They ended up getting a priest to bless the house. Obvisiously , there is still strong energy left there. What i experienced was after all of these events!  So, we fast forward a few years, I am about 16 yrs. old. We moved to Grayslake when I was 15. My uncle Nacho was staying for a while cause he was doing a job in Waukegan. I during this time was already "ghost hunting/investigating" and the majority of my family new my interest as well. I asked him if he remembers the house and all the experiences that happened. He did! He told me a few years later they had found out that there was a possible indian burial ground near that area. Also, a man had lived there with his daughter many years back. The story goes, he was very strict with her and possible that some sort of abuse was involved. One day they just never seen the girl again and assumed she left. Never seen her again! My uncle stated that he may have new the girl or the family. In that part of Chicago, family new family one way or another. Also, in that part of Chicago, the police are not wanted or their involvement is minimal unless it is doing patrols or arresting gangs, drug dealers and so on. Which leads me to another note in research and to the next part here. They never got the police involved at any point in these instances. That is why it would be hard to determine if the bones were of the girl or burial ground theories! We will never know!  This is where everything is going to tie up! Sorry for the wait but hey, you want a story you got it! Plus, people don’t read as much as used to! It’s excercise. lol! So, somehow I bring up the very first story and he tells me that he remembers that building. And remembers that one of the apartments was haunted by a little boy! I was like what? He says that they would see a little boy walk from the kitchen to the bathroom. One day the people put baby powder on the area and found footprints! I was amazed that at such a young age I had such a sense and was somewhat on spot of what I concluded to about the first story. The woman never was solved, but maybe somehow she is connected to the boy? Or maybe there is a whole different connection to her? It seems that more things are happening in that area when you look at the picture from far away! Still very interesting I would say. I have many more experiences that I will share. You know what’s funny? Matt put this topic up and I was going to write a series of articles of my experiences and conclusions. Synchricity I say!  I could also pose that maybe I am just more sensitive to such energies? I would say not, I haven’t had an experience like those in a long time, which may make me skeptic at times. I do pose that we are all psychic, But experiences like these told here, there would have to be pre-existing psychic energy. Especially, when over time you look at all experiences, they are just intermitten individual experiences. So, If I/we were in tuned to be consider anything such as psychic or medium, we would have to be able to control it or have it happen every time, anywhere, chaotic or constant psychic experiences.  Through this, I consider all "hauntings" residual. There is no category. We as humans put things in categories. They are just individual to mass psychic experiences to those who are not totally intuitive or like the common person dealing with bills and kids and so on. Not that psychics or mediums don’t deal with  the same thing, but it’s taken as more of the majority of the modern world. We all exist in energy together, but somehow we separate these occurances as "reality" and  "paranormal" or whatever we label them as. But, through these "filters" of the mind, we would experience such events as "hauntings" or "psychic" experiences. Sorry, I am getting to deep into this! I will end it here. And if you wish to hear more? Give me sometime to write it up! Thanks for the time! Justin Villarreal Founder of L.C.G.H. lakecountyghosthunters@yahoo.com http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/LCGH http://www.myspace.com/lakecountyghosthunters

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• Date / Time: 3/27/2008 4:01 AM UTC

  Thoughts on Meditation by Vicky of L.C.G.H.

  My name is Victoria and I am a part of the LCGH team.
  I have been practicing many forms of meditation over
  the last 6 years or so and I love to encourage
  everyone to try it if you haven’t already and maybe
  improve on it if you have tried it. I’m introducing to
  you what I have learned and researched over the years.
  Hopefully you all can enjoy meditation as much as I
  do.
  
  Meditation is good for a number of things. It can be
  used as a way to organize your mind, create an inner
  balance, and bring about spiritual awareness. It can
  also produce a greater intensity in you dreams, one of
  the ways this is achieved is by opening the spectrum
  of your third eye and your subconscious mind.
  Meditation also strengthens your perceptions. Some of
  the more conventional ways meditation is used includes
  general stress and anxiety relief, to lower blood
  pressure and cholesterol levels, to better your
  concentration and focus, to enhance creativity, and to
  produce greater intimacy with friends, family members
  and lovers.
  
  To start your journey you will need a meditation
  cushion (Zafu), bench, favorite chair, or bed. Make
  sure whatever you choose to use fit’s your comfort and
  that this is what you will use every time you meditate
  (consistency is key). Make sure the area that you
  meditate in is quiet, tidy and reserved for meditation
  purposes. Chose a regular time slot for when you
  meditate. Make sure you phone is turned off to limit
  your distractions. Make sure you’re sitting in a
  comfortable sitting or laying position. You should
  also wear loose clothing, but make sure you will be
  comfortably warm throughout your meditation. Make sure
  to meditate regularly to strengthen your skills.
  Decide beforehand how long your are going to meditate
  for and stick to it (my recommendation for beginners
  is 5 min, my comfortable meditation time is 30 min).
  Find which sitting or laying position suites you,
  making sure you are as comfortable as possible while
  also making sure your spine is as straight as
  possible. Make sure you know before hand what it is
  you are trying to achieve from meditation. It is best
  to not have any expectations of what you will be
  experiencing in the meditation, it is and will be
  different for everyone. Make sure to have patience
  with your self and with your mind, meditation does not
  come easily to everyone and in many cases it requires
  a lot of regular practice.
  
  There are many forms and techniques of meditating, but
  I feel that this particular technique can be very
  useful and beneficial to both beginners and people
  just looking to improve their skills:
  
  First go to your quiet relaxing, designated meditation
  spot. Sit or lay how ever feels comfortable to you.
  Just stay with your eyes closed in this position for a
  moment. Listen to the sounds around you while you
  think of nothing.
  
  Now it is time to begin the deep relaxation. Focus on
  each individual part of your body starting from your
  toes and working your way up. Relax each and every
  toe, then move onto your foot, feel the tension melt
  away, then on to your legs relaxing every muscle. As
  your muscles become more relaxed it may feel as if
  they are sinking through the ground or as though they
  have heavy weights on them, this is good. Move your
  way up through your stomach, your fingers, your hands,
  your arms, your chest (at this point focus on relaxing
  your breathing/ slow it down), keep moving up to your
  neck relaxing all the muscle, and then finally your
  head, ensuring your lips, tongue, eyes and forehead
  are relaxed.
  
  After you’ve completed the relaxation it is time to
  ground yourself (not like "you can’t go out for a
  week", it’s just a way of becoming more in tuned to
  the earth and the natural forces around you). I like
  to do this by envision roots growing out from the
  bottom of my feet, I imagine these roots descending
  through the many layers of the earth all the way to
  the earth’s core. Once my "roots" have reached the
  earths core I envision my negative thoughts, feeling,
  and any feeling of discomfort flowing out through the
  roots to the core of the earth, simultaneously I
  envision the many healthy energies of the earths core
  replenishing my body, flowing up through the roots
  into the pit of my stomach. I feel the warmth of the
  earths core and the amazing relaxing properties it
  brings with it. After all of the negative feeling have
  left my body and have been replaced with a general
  relaxation, I leave the negativity behind and embrace
  the new feeling of fulfillment. The "roots" begin to
  come back up from the earths core and I feel content.
  
  Enjoy this new feeling as long as you’d like and then
  slowly begin to "wake up". calmly begin to move
  various parts of your body and open your eyes. You
  should come to feeling refreshed and rejuvenated.
  
  I will continue to post various forms of meditation,
  but I hope you enjoy this simple form for now!
  
  ---Victoria---
  
  
  
  Justin Villarreal
  Founder of L.C.G.H.
  lakecountyghosthunters@...
  http://www.myspace.com/lakecountyghosthunters
  
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• Date / Time: 3/27/2008 4:00 AM UTC

  New Ideas

  Hi all,
  
  We are currently in the works of putting together a
  "paranormal research society" (we are one already, but
  without that title, titles really mean nothing). Over
  the years (I personally have been doing this close to
  10yrs) I have met and worked with so many different
  individuals, that I just want to bring us all together
  to discuss theories and such, not that we cant do it
  on our individual yahoo groups or myspace..etc. But it
  seems , in my perspective, some topics can't
  necessarily be shared on all paranormal groups. Even
  though all things are connected in so many ways, we
  must take certain topics/theories into separate
  entities.
  
  As much as this may be contradicting (isn't life
  contradicting at times), we cant necessarily put
  "metaphysical" and "ghost hunting/paranormal
  investigating" ideas under the same umbrella. Thats of
  course if one proclaims their investigative style as
  the scientific route. Yes, I have claimed that as
  well! So here is the thing, if you want to get
  scientific on something. You most take out human
  variable on things. Such as people themselves(seeing
  possible effects without that variable) and of course
  metaphysical properties such as mediums, psychics and
  religious/spiritual perspectives. This is the main
  reason why "ghost hunting/paranormal investigating" is
  still consider a pseudo-science for true scientific
  community (oh, none of this counts for
  parapsychologist-they study mostly "psychic
  phenomenon". Its like chasing your tail in the dark in
  a sense when you are applying such techniques. So
  what's going to be different?
  
  The L. C. G. H. will stay and operate under its
  current protocol. Why? Well, we still need to test
  both sides on this subject. We need the common belief
  in "ghost hunting" to show that perspective and make
  contrast as well as still incorporate metaphysical
  ideas such as mediums, psychics and
  religious/spiritual beliefs. This way we can have the
  option to handle this on the manner of investigating
  and cleansing of a supposed haunted place. Plus, the
  common person can relate to this style cause of recent
  years in paranormal shows/pop culture.
  
  The Paranormal Research Society will have a protocol
  for investigation based of statistical data (true
  scientific research on hauntings) than the common
  "ghost hunters" protocol of above. We would setup
  equipment such as Emf readers, Geiger counters,
  cameras and whatever we can to record data on such a
  scale without humans/investigators in area. You see
  this is even hard, because there is no real set "ghost
  hunting" tools, this is a tangent itself and of course
  something we are currently researching on. We can get
  into that later. The research part of course is just
  that. We will discuss all topic under this, there
  will be no censorship (this would be topics such as
  Quantum Mechanics, The Occult and Religious/Spiritual
  beliefs or life styles)! There shouldn't be any
  censorship on this, that would be silly, this is a
  research society of course (that goes overall for both
  entities). Also, through this we want to test psychic
  abilities of people who make such claims. All of the
  ideas for the research society are in the works.
  
  So, to start off with these new ideas. I would like
  anyone who may know anything on supposed haunted
  places or experiences in the Lake County, IL. Email us
  or post on anything that we post on so we can get the
  message. We have many stories, but more the merrier
  and we can contrast them with past events or stories.
  We are Lake County Ghost Hunters!
  
  We do know the common places such as St. Pat's in
  Wadsworth, The Gate in Gurnee and of course white's
  Cemetery in Barrington! If you know anything to
  elaborate on these or even new (new to us) places,
  don't hesitate. Does anybody know of anything on
  Mundelien or the infamous St. Mary's Seminary, I have
  an audio recording of an interview that I done a few
  months ago that makes some interesting claims. Thanks
  for you time all!
  
  
  
  
  Justin Villarreal
  Founder of L.C.G.H.
  lakecountyghosthunters@...
  http://www.myspace.com/lakecountyghosthunters
  
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• Date / Time: 3/27/2008 3:54 AM UTC

  1st Interview pics of the south side case

  Hi all
  
  I can only give you so much info at the moment. But,
  we have completed a short first interview and the pics
  are up on our myspace photos under "South Side
  Investigation" for viewing. Eventually, I will get
  them posted on our yahoo groups for the community on
  there. I did not go through all of them so please
  comment on pics that you may have noticed something. I
  for sure noticed some orb pics, but I cannot credit
  them as anomalies just yet! The wife contacted me 1st
  through phone and emailed me her detailed summary of
  what has been going on about a 2 months ago and she
  decided to have us come down saturday. Not all members
  of the team nor the team present other than I knew
  any detail on the investigation. No real experiences
  have happened over all during the interview!
  
  The investigation entailed-
  -2.5 hours of investigation (5pm- 7:30pm)
  -3 members of home present
  Wife
  Son
  Daughter
  
  -4 Reps of L.C.G.H.
  Justin Villarreal (Lead Investigator)
  Lucia Bruer (Photographer)
  Adam Villarreal (Tech)
  Karmin Anaya (Researcher/Interviewer)
  
  -2 did not have any previous paranormal experiences
  Adam Villarreal
  Karmin Anaya
  
  -2 people interviewed (audio recorded)
  justin Villarreal interviewed the mother (location
  livngroom-hot spot-tape recorder)
  Karmin Anaya interviewed the son(location basement-
  hot spot-digital audio)
  
  Equipment-
  -1 Digital Camera
  -1 Tape Recorder
  -1 Digital Audio Recorder
  -1 Video Camera (vhs)
  -2 Emf Detectors
  
  Brief details-
  House is on south east side of Chicago
  -2 Story w/ basement
  -3 Bedrooms
  -1 Kitchen
  -1 Bathroom
  -1 Livingroom
  -1 Dining area
  
  5 people currently reside in home-
  Husband(usually working)
  Wife(experiences phenomenon)
  -2 Sons(13 yrs. old son experiences phenomenon)
  -1 Daughter(3 yrs old experiences phenomenon)
  -1 Cat (experiences phenomenon)
  
  Experiences-
  Footsteps are heard in upstairs bedroom-
  -1 Video Camera (no one was present in upstairs
  bedroom while filming)
  -1 Emf Detector (a lot of electronics in one corner,
  emf went off and was strong near those areas)
  Weird noises though out house
  Shadows seen in basement-
  -1 Digital Audio Recorder
  -1 Emf Detector (a lot of electronics in one corner,
  emf went off and was strong near those areas)
  Weird pics taken in hallway to bedrooms and bathroom
  (by client) will post those too
  Probable psychic experiences from the 13 yr old son
  
  Conclusion-
  All evidence has not been reviewed from 1st interview
  and there is one possible group experience in living
  room (heard a thump while conducting interview with
  mother). Time of 1st interview was short as well as 2
  interesting photos the 13 yrs. old son took and shown
  to me, interesting for sure. Take all this into
  consideration, I would say case is not closed. Even in
  the interview, some interesting stories were brought
  up. So further investigating most be done.
  
  
  Photos and any evidence collected can be used by
  clients permission.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Justin Villarreal
  Founder of L.C.G.H.
  lakecountyghosthunters@...
  http://www.myspace.com/lakecountyghosthunters
  
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• Date / Time: 3/27/2008 3:52 AM UTC

  Thoughts on the "emf subject" by Josh Hehe-Science Advisor of L.C.G.H

  As one theory states, there are electromagnetic anomalies that occur in the presence of ghosts. This is due to the assumption that discarnate entities need a corporeal counterbalance in order to persist. In other words, a soul cannot remain earthbound unless it posesses a body or something of the sort.
  
  So, it is reasoned that in order for a ghost to manifest, it has to draw upon the electromagnetic radiation from all the surrounding sources. The general consensus is that the signitaure pattern is that of a field that produces only a few milligauss of energy (2-7 mG).
  
  This means that investigators should encounter a noticable drop in the ambient fields and an increase in the direction of the entity. When testing for this, everyone must take note of all the environmental sources of radiation. Remember things like the fact that when you stand 50 feet from a powerline your EMF will register a 7 mG read. Again, that's the same signature as a ghost.
  
  The same is true of waving the damn contraption around in the air scanning for ghosts. These instruments are made to be stationary, or level at best. Of course, you will detect all sorts of things if you wave your detector in all sorts of directions. That's to be expected. The true paranormal effect will only come about by keeping your instruments as still as possible.
  
  In fact, as an example let's say that a client experiences a haunting every night in his cellar. You would want to set up a perimeter of very short range EMF detectors facing in toward the most likely location of the spectre. Then you would set up another perimeter facing out away from the focal point. 
  
  Obviously, you would want to point these directly at any source, like an outlet, but also just out into the general surroundings. In other words, at the strongest and the weakest points.
  
  This will allow you to determine how much energy a ghost uses to become corporeal. It will establish a ratio between the size of the entity and its environment, and it will enable you to act---manipulate, isolate, detain, dispell, etc........
  

  
  
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• Date / Time: 3/27/2008 3:50 AM UTC

  Possible Investigative Protocol

  I have been trying to come up with an investigative
  style for the team. Two ideas I would like to add,
  would be a variable for info on the investigation and
  variable of an outside skeptic not from the team. This
  is an experiment within itself and I would love to see
  the outcomes on both. Of course both of these can be
  added of taken out depending on the situation of the
  case/investigation itself! So, here is the
  working/likely protocol for investigative purposes.
  
  Justin Villarreal
  Founder of L.C.G.H.
  
  
  
  
  Protocol
  
  1st-
  
  Request all information possible before starting an
  investigation. This will be discussed between certain
  members in the team, unless need be for safety issues
  (whatever that may be). Lead investigator should know
  all information unless otherwise noted!
  
  2nd-
  
  1st Interview-
  Will include 1-3 members (or more if needed) from
  L.C.G.H.
  
  -1 person to conduct interview (notes and audio
  recording, also lead investigator/case manager may
  hold this position)
  
  -1 person to help with investigation on premises
  (interviewing,equipment setup and take down, possible
  documentary duties and possible skeptic)
  
  -1 person to document the interview/investigation
  (audio, photographic and video)
  
  2nd Interview (if needed)
  This would be decided if any experiences were
  uncertain or any experiences were had at all in the
  1st interview at that time before fully deciding on an
  investigation. This will include the same amount of
  people and individuals from the 1st interview unless
  there is need, for research purposes. If there were
  experiences to a certain number of members, that
  certain amount if possible, would be replaced with
  that equal number. Most likely in this manner it would
  have to be 2 because the lead investigator/case
  manager most be present at all times. Also, the 1-2
  individuals that are new would of course not be
  informed of the experiences that were had over all.
  This is to further our research for possible
  suggestive influences of the "psychic phenomenon"
  involved in the case. Tell me what you all think of
  that? We are not experts, but it doesn’t stop the
  passion for research in a phenomenon that no one
  really can explain!
  
  Otherwise we would go over evidence (if any) and noted
  experiences (if any) to come to a conclusion for full
  investigation. Sometimes (majority) there may be no
  need or schedule issues for 1st or 2nd interview to
  commence. For this reason, we must go directly into
  investigation and make conclusions to the case as we
  move along. But, 1st thing 1st, we must have as much
  information if possible about the case from client to
  conclude anything.
  
  3rd
  Investigation
  Will include 1-6? members of L.C.G.H.
  
  -Lead Investigator/case manager
  
  -2-3 members will help with all case priorities
  (interviewing, investigating (note taking), equipment
  setup & take down, possible documentary duties and
  possible skeptics)
  
  The remaining members (if any) would have the same
  duties as everyone else or specified fields such as-
  
  -Documentary Duties
  
  -Skeptics (outside of team meetings and
  investigations/unless restricted by clients request)
  
  -Mediums/Psychics (unless restricted by clients
  request)
  
  Mediums/Psychics won’t be brought in until the client
  as agreed. If agreed, they will not be used until
  either a 1st interview or 1st investigation has been
  started (unless otherwise noted). Since we are dealing
  with meta-physical aspects, we do recognize the need
  for meta-physical tools one could say. They are
  capable of acquiring certain information and are able
  to help in dealing with meta-physical theories of
  positive and negative phenomenon. If certain info is
  known to the team and client, and the mediums/psychics
  (they of course will not be given any information
  prior to investigation) hit on or add points to
  certain aspects in the investigation, this would
  greatly help this case in any aspect positive or
  negative. Always get a different perspective on
  things!
  
  Of course all of this will be determined prior to the
  investigation, based off any info relative to the
  case!
  
  Another experiment I would like to incorporate before
  or during the investigation, would be to place
  equipment (depending on amount and access to certain
  equipment) in certain spots before sending
  investigators into the environment. Let the certain
  equipment record for about an hour or so(or longer),
  then proceed to introduce investigators into the
  environment. This all depends on the single case, oh
  each case is different or should at least be handled
  that way depending on scenario. But I would eventually
  love to incorporate different ideas into the mix. This
  is science and research you know!
  
  4th
  Review of Case
  Will include all or as many members needed
  
  -Review all evidence and notes
  
  -Discuss any possible conclusions
  
  -Agree on a single Conclusion
  
  5th
  Conclusion
  Will include 1-3 members (more if needed)
  
  -Lead Investigator
  
  -1 member to help in all duties needed
  
  -1 documentary
  
  -Discuss findings and possible conclusion to case
  
  -If a banishment is requested, it would be completed
  through us by any means necessary upon the clients
  request.
  
  -We will fit any comforts necessary to conclude the
  investigation and the clients requests.
  
  -If after some time period the phenomenon does not
  cease, we will further help in any way possible to
  complete any request made by the client. Even if we
  personally as a team do nothing!
  
  
  
  
  Justin Villarreal
  Founder of L.C.G.H.
  lakecountyghosthunters@...
  http://www.myspace.com/lakecountyghosthunters
  
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