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A Chat with A J Swoboda about His Mess

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Pastor A.J. Swoboda, author of Messy, God Likes It That Way, believes we’re all messed up -- Christians and nonbelievers alike. The difference is, Christians have Jesus and hope while non-Christians stumble alone. He disagrees with those who claim the Christian life is easy. Following Jesus is hard. When someone confesses they want to follow Jesus, A.J. says, maybe we should “punch them square in the face  . . . and say, ‘Welcome to the kingdom of pain.’” A.J. claims his own life became way messier after he met Jesus. And Jesus was Mary’s mess.

Dr. Swoboda earned his Ph.D. from the University of Birmingham, England, in his early thirties. Besides planting and pastoring a successful church with his wife, Quinn, he teaches seminary and speaks to audiences of thousands. The startling statements A.J. makes will cause you to pause, ponder, and perceive Truth. Join us and rethink your views on the Christian life.