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J DeGolier Noetling

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Hi Janeen, I was so here and finally got to hear your show it was wonderful I loved it and will come back again when i can find free time.

J DeGolier Noetling

J DeGolier Noetling

Golly was that a short answer to cinibear! Must of been one of those pre coffee mornings or a midnite snooze on my board. Anyway, do return, Your thoughts and words are important to me.

J DeGolier Noetling

J DeGolier Noetling

thanks cinibear, thought I answered this before. Come back often.

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HI JANEE,I DO SO ENJOY YOUR SHOW, IT IS SO SINCERE, DOWN TO EARTH, AND RIGHT FROM THE HEART. LIGHT HEARTED AND GRACIOUS. TODAYS SHOW WAS NO EXCEPTION.

My Mama's Mustache & Other Inherited Stuff  

"The end of silence is this…light, life, laughter, liberty… oppression will not stand an end of silence." Janeen DeGolier Noetling (1953-?) The recipe for changing a life is simple; it is rarely easy. For myself, it seemed a slow trudge to nowhere. The main ingredient was the getting up each morning and putting one foot before the other; like a broken record, I got sick of it. I did it anyway.

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    New Beginning, Changed Format

    J DeGolier Noetling

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    Category: Self Help

    Call-in Number: (646) 929-1294


    I am still about changing me. I like to think each day I add one new item to my store of knowledge, or erase an old outdated tape with new messages for a better life. The truth is, sometimes I fail. Perhaps this new format will fail, after all combining changing me with changing the world view of abusive incest family systems may be difficult. Why not just stick to changing me? Well, while I was working on me, the incest family system I was born into was working on changing me too. Seems like I ought to be grateful. Unfortunately the family was painting me in toxic paint, muddy colors, and continually going outside the lines of truth and decency. So my attempt will be to keep the focus to changing me, while filling in the background of my life that has brought me to this practice. I cannot change others, no one can. But I can change me.

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    Back in the Saddle Again! Monday Morning!

    It seems I do not have to work on changing me anymore. I have several extremely righteous family members working diligently towards that end. The difficulty is they do not know who I am. It is hard to change what is not known to be what you want.

    My own business always bores me to death; I prefer other people's.
      
        Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), Lady Windermere's Fan, 1892

    A rumor without a leg to stand on will get around some other way.
      
        John Tudor

    I'm not sure I want popular opinion on my side -- I've noticed those with the most opinions often have the fewest facts.
     
        Bethania McKenstry

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    A Momentary Defeat; A Momentary Silence; Compared to The Strength of My Convictions Mean Less Than N

    Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.
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    Theodore Roosevelt (1858 - 1919)

    What is defeat? Nothing but education; nothing but the first step to something better.
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    Wendell Phillips (1811 - 1884)

    For over a month I have been silenced without mercy. How can this be? I am free, of age, and physically capable of the most atrocious sounds when I get the mood.

    You see, it is like this. People got afraid because of what they thought I might do.

    1. Speak traitorous words against traitorous people. (I will definitely speak more traitorous words now.)
    2. Wake up dead of a suicide attack in my sister Wanda's spare room. OK, Wanda would find me dead. (When I was suicidal years ago, none of them were worried about anyone finding me dead in any bed. Now that I love life and never consider taking mine or any other life, my family has decided to take a stand and drive me from the DeGolierland territory.) Now mind you, they are not concerned that I will be found dead, just not in NY.

    I realize this show is about changing me, and it will continue as such, but with so many people working so hard to change me, do I really have to make my own effort?

    Absolutely. You see, the people bent on changing me do not know who I am. They have no clue. But I do. They want me to become "one of them" so I will fit, be acceptable, be safe to have around.

    I use to be one of them. Quite uncomfortable really, always watching my back, always worried that people would find out who I am, always on the move in case people began to get "too close."

    Besides, the family already decided who I am, I didn't even have to lift a finger.

    Will return in a while to finish.

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    Five Weeks OFF, Overloaded.

    But by Monday will have reliable internet so, I'll be here!


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    The Trouble With Mob Rule When Fear Is The Instigator, Leader, & Weapon in an Incest Family System

    Nobody Wins!

    The mob remains in fear:
    Fear of being right
    Fear of being wrong
    Fear of discovery
    Fear of one stray individual thought betraying them
    Fear that one day they will become the target

    Fear
    Fear
    Fear

    Mob rule can kill, maim, slander, discredit, and destroy. But they can never win.

    It is more so in an Incest Family System. The Mob Rule consists of predators and the family who will give their own lives, time, energy,  emotion and sell their souls to the devil to protect a predator in the family.

    They lose on many levels.

    1. They lose the predator to his own disability
    2. They lose touch with their own humanity.
    3. They lock themselves in to one set of thinking, right thinking
    4. Individuality is sacrificed for the good of the family.
    5. Being on-guard consumes them
    6. Lies and deceit must be covered with more lies and deceit
    7. Remembering what they say is imperative, truth has a way of finding its way

    I am the disloyal member in an incest family system. I am not the first traitor, only the most recent.
    One who knew too much was labeled long ago "crazy"
    Intimidation wreaked havoc on most of us.
    Another was pressured to sign a paper stating that what happened never happened.
    A third was black-balled from the family for attempting to protect a predators grandchildren.

    I made the mistake of returning to the family territory of Chautauqua County. The first day in NY a family member-predator was lurking around, and yes, there is proof, in an attempt to frighten me off.
    You see, as the baby of 20 children, I was always easy to run off, a cry-baby, of little account.
    I changed.
    Now three years and 4 months later I am still moving forward and upward through fear and heartache and financial ruin due to caring too much for family who are incapable of caring back.
    And so Mob Rule has won some battles against me, but they cannot win the war.
    I told them to back off.
    I said my bite was worse than my bark.
    I said I was not out to hurt anyone.
    I said they had it all wrong.

    They in turn labeled me crazy, dangerous, suicidal, a candidate for "the system" for disability and "the mental help I need" and from all directions family members poured in to drive me away.

    Wait a moment. I am family. No. I am not. I am a traitor to the good name of bad people.
    I have dishonored the family with no honor.
    I must be put back in my place, or destroyed.

    They do not know yet that I found a new place to belong in, a place of freedom and sanity, individuality and self worth.

    When one of my elder sisters recently said if only I would just relax and be one of them, then they could accept me back in the family, I knew I would never be acceptable to them.

    I fought through depression, alcoholism, incest therapy, and years of twelve step meetings to get to this place. I faced down my mother, braved the cold heart of DeGolierland, and have stepped away from the precipice I let them drive me to.

    Go back and be "one of us" ? It will never happen.

    I will always be free of the past. I earned my freedom with tears and hard work.
    The family will remain a slave to the past, standing guard, ever vigilante against some wayward soul revealing the family secrets.

    I have gained four sisters however. I have sisters for the first time ever. So I have more family than I thought possible.

    Perhaps there are winners after all.

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    I Shall Return!!!!!

    In the meantime, here is the post I would have posted, would have talked about and couldn't stay on line long enough to post even.

    My powerful pc should be ready this week. I got everything but my eyes crossed.

    There is nothing like returning to a place that remains unchanged to find how you yourself have altered.
    Nelson Mandela

    I vowed to me before entering New York State in June 2006 that I would not knuckle under to family pressure, or the intimidation that was sure to come.

    I underestimated the meanness of the family of my birth. Perhaps I overestimated my own strength.

    Before I set off for the land of my childhood I joked to my children that I would be the one with binoculars up on the cliffs at Letchworth State Park checking out the DeGolier Family Reunion to see if it was safe to proceed.

    I ought to have taken me serious.

    It is three and a half years later, and I did not knuckle under, nor did I run. I bent and twisted like a funnel cake at the fair, as did two of my sisters who stood by me, but I did not break.

    In total I have four sisters now, four more than I had before 2006.

    But back to changing me.

    A portrait has been painted, more like a police sketch, and handed out, tacked up, and an all-points bulletin broadcast.

    She must be devalued, discredited, patronized, medicated, re-educated, disabled, silenced, sent back where "she belongs."

    One thing is sure. Had I the character, personality, selfishness, and viciousness of the labels attached to their rendition of me, I would hardly seek to change myself. It would still be everybody else who needs to change.

    Point made. They label me with their own cr and expect me to fix it.

    But it is all about changing me. The family will have to deal with their own stuff, or not. I do not care anymore.

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    If it is all about changing me, why are so many others working so hard to change me?

    There is nothing like returning to a place that remains unchanged to find how you yourself have altered.
    Nelson Mandela

    I vowed to me before entering New York State in June 2006 that I would not knuckle under to family pressure, or the intimidation that was sure to come.

    I underestimated the meanness of the family of my birth. Perhaps I overestimated my own strength.

    Before I set off for the land of my childhood I joked to my children that I would be the one with binoculars up on the cliffs at Letchworth State Park checking out the DeGolier Family Reunion to see if it was safe to proceed.

    I ought to have taken me serious.

    It is three and a half years later, and I did not knuckle under, nor did I run. I bent and twisted like a funnel cake at the fair, as did two of my sisters who stood by me, but I did not break.

    In total I have four sisters now, four more than I had before 2006.

    But back to changing me.

    A portrait has been painted, more like a police sketch, and handed out, tacked up, and an all-points bulletin broadcast.

    She must be devalued, discredited, patronized, medicated, re-educated, disabled, silenced, sent back where "she belongs."

    One thing is sure. Had I the character, personality, selfishness, and viciousness of the labels attached to their rendition of me, I would hardly seek to change myself. It would still be everybody else who needs to change.

    Point made. They label me with their own cr and expect me to fix it.

    But it is all about changing me. The family will have to deal with their own stuff, or not. I do not care anymore.


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    No Show Again

    Trust me LOL, I am trying.

    The magnificent powers that be in this tyrannical family incest system have managed to cripple my voice temporarily.
    My equipment has dwindled with the moving and shifting and mess. But I will be uploading a video this morning on YouTube, and several more in the next couple of days. I have a lot to say and a whole evil system to expose.

    Down but not out. And far from silenced!

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