In this episode Mandy Eppley interviews Chris Saade about his life and its relation to Step 3 - Initiation. Chris and Mandy are the co-creators of the 7 step Model of Heart Centered Grief. As co-director of the Olive Branch Center with his wife, Jessie Thompson, Saade teaches courses on socially engaged spirituality and the mysticism of personal authenticity, solidarity, and inclusion. He is also the author of Second Wave Spirituality: Passion for Peace, Passion for Justice. He has collaborated with author Andrew Harvey on two audiobooks: An Evolutionary Vision of Relationships: the Spirituality of Romantic Love and the audio version of Prayers from the Heart.
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