Celebrating ‘The Twilight Saga: New Moon’
In honor of the opening day of New Moon, the latest film in The Twilight Saga, we thought we ...
The Cheryl Behind the Cheryl
Known to many as the long-suffering (ex)wife of funnyman Larry David, the man behind Seinfeld, ...
BlogTalkRadio Host of the Week: Alfred McComber from...
By Christina Blodgett In our continuing effort to spotlight more members of the BlogTalkRadio ...
Debra J.M. Smith
12/6/2008 9:01 PM UTC
To the "devout" Catholic I say from Galatians 4:16, "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"
12/6/2008 9:00 PM UTC
Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. -- "Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?" ~Psalm 94:16
12/6/2008 8:58 PM UTC
Hi "Bible Smack Radio" (Matt)... I agree with you. And I will go even one step further and say that I do not consider true Catholicism to be a true Christian faith-belief or denomination. I believe from something you said earlier in this post-board is right on the mark... that Catholicism is a cult. This is mainly because it comes with a different gospel.
12/6/2008 8:52 PM UTC
There will come a day that the accuser of brethren will be no more able to reach us. For we wrestle not against flesh. No, I have not posted anything remotely of the "hate filled rant" nature, but Satan wishes to accuse me of such. And any man who does such, is doing Satan's work. ...Debra
12/6/2008 8:48 PM UTC
Revelation 12:10 (Whole Chapter) And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Bible Smack Radio
12/6/2008 4:06 PM UTC
continued.. with passion. Many People on both sides gave their lives in support of their faith. Every time ecumenicals try to act like this was worthless it belittles the sacrifice of martyr on boths sides. We want to keep this debate from getting personal not simply to make all sects of christianity look peaceful. But to put a spotlight on the real issue: the nature and effect of the gospel.
12/6/2008 4:02 PM UTC
Let me just say this, there is a time to fight and a way to fight clean. I do not believe my views about the catholic church due to a personal beef with certain catholics. My views are theological in origin. I understand that "A newt one" as a faithfull catholic should be offended. This is a theological war which has raged for centuries. However, I believe in religious liberty. Therefore, I respect newts views and would like to beat him in the war of ideas. I have no problem wi
ATW
12/6/2008 3:29 PM UTC
I'll be consistent and condemn both the hate filled attacks ON Debra and the hate filled rants BY Debra. Neither are representative of Christ AND NEITHER are based in truth.
12/6/2008 1:15 AM UTC
Well, said, Bob. ..Hey did you two notice that this is up to around 100 posts? I think that has got to be some kind of record on BTR. :)
Wacko Bob
12/5/2008 11:56 PM UTC
I'll say this! anger and ego's for themselves had more to do with this then anything else. The one thing I can say like other shows thisweek that are here on BTR is none of them acted like christians. And only resurted to name calling and slandering. Some were even drunk. Just worry about your own show and maybe there won't be such an issue. If you don't like whats being said then just don't listen.
12/5/2008 1:37 PM UTC
Hi "Bible Smack Radio" ...It is nice to meet you. Bob has said such nice things about you. I enjoyed listening to the archive of your show. We are talking about putting together a group for born again believers on BTR. I hope if we do that you will be part of it. ...Hope you have a very blessed day. ...Debra
12/5/2008 3:45 AM UTC
It's is not a negative principle. not "god can only speak" but God will perefectly preserve is word... Yes...through His church. you just keep getting caught in your own traps. *g*
12/5/2008 3:24 AM UTC
The Bible canon was set in 384 AD. Hmmmmm. No Bible for 351 years after Jesus death...but we DID have the CHURCH Jesus built on Peter. Peter means a stone not a rock read the Bible. John 1:42 The canon was set in the heavens in eternity past.(it's in psalms I'll get the ref. later.) Soome of the "heretics" that you condemned like the montanist already had full canon accepted centuries earlier. just cause some gnostic heretics didn't get the drift doesn't mean much.. What do
12/5/2008 3:16 AM UTC
My work is done here. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Too Easy... TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO easy. Remeber what the Bible says about scoffers 2Peter 3:3-9 we giv you scriptrue while all you have done is "ad homenum" mockery
12/5/2008 3:13 AM UTC
It's is not a negative principle. not "god can only speak" but God will perefectly preserve is word. Just like it's not "Husband can only sleep with wife" But "Husband can find true ove in his life with wife".
12/5/2008 3:10 AM UTC
THE "CHURCH" IS headed by Jesus, not Peter. He is the head of the body not the Pope. He is e Prophet Priest and King not the Pope. Historical the catholic church has a bad reputation for lies not truth. Scandal after scandal, century after century. Paul was never part of the RCC. After all He opposed peter to his face.Gal 2:11
12/5/2008 3:06 AM UTC
Some simple erses that tell us not to add or take away from God's word are deuteronomy 4:2 and proverbs 30:5-6"EVERY word if God is PURE He is a sheild unto them that put there trust in him. Add thou not unto His words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a LIAR." "KNOWING THIS FIRST, THAT NO PROPHECY OF THE SCRIPTURE IS OF ANY PRIVATE INTEPRETATION. FOR THE PROPHECY CAME NOT INOLD TIME BY THE WILL OF MAN: BUT HOLY MEN OF GOD SPAKE AS THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST."2
12/5/2008 2:53 AM UTC
Anewtone, It's amazing how your arguements agianst "sola scriptura" sound like the "kingdom of the cults". Almost everything you are saying could be preached from the pulpits of a Mormon Tabernacle.
12/5/2008 2:50 AM UTC
newt! One minute you are talkin about how you beleive in tradition. The next minute you are following the old evoltuionary liberal critic monolgue. And you were spouting off belief inerrency earlier as if you knew what the phrase meant! Matthew was the first written gospel. Liberals use the evolutionary theory to say Mark was first because theyhav a tattered manuscript with the resurrection account in Mark erased so that they can deny theresurrection of Christ. The only people who argue th
12/5/2008 2:41 AM UTC
Debra all I can say is you rock! Those are some Biblesmack quotations worthy of a defender of the faith!!!
12/5/2008 2:35 AM UTC
while the host is a way the amphibian will play. Don't blame me for the whore comment, blame the apostle John.
12/4/2008 10:58 PM UTC
Mock me all you want. I will not be moved.
If your Catholic church is the authority and wrote the Bible, then why does the Bible contradict much of Catholicism, lending way to the need for the Catholic church to over-ride it on several things? Fact is the Catholic church did is not the author of the Bible, God is. And God has preserved it for every generation. The Catholic church is no different than Mormonism, in that it adds to the word of God and claims such additions to be of God. I stand alone on the Word of God. Mock me all you wan
12/4/2008 10:54 PM UTC
God did not let 351 years go by without His Word being available to people. Scripture says, "The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever." Psalm 12:6-7 ...The Catholic church put together the Catholic church's bible, by taking that, which already was, and adding to it. Then the Catholic church declared itself "the" church and all else tha
12/4/2008 10:53 PM UTC
Think about it logically; if there was not written word of God till 351 AD, then that means that God's Word was not available for generations of people. And if the Christian church was not formed till 351 AD, and as per the Catholic Catechism's teachings that a person must go through the Catholic church to be saved, that means all those people are in hell.
12/4/2008 10:24 PM UTC
Deb logic. God can only speak through books.
12/4/2008 10:23 PM UTC
My work is done here. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Too Easy... TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO easy.
12/4/2008 10:22 PM UTC
Deb Logic... Church gives us the Bible, therefore, Bible refutes the Church *LOL*
12/4/2008 10:21 PM UTC
The Bible canon was set in 384 AD. Hmmmmm. No Bible for 351 years after Jesus death...but we DID have the CHURCH Jesus built on Peter.
12/4/2008 10:20 PM UTC
Btw...find the word "Bible" in Scripture. Not there. "Church" is there 109 times.
12/4/2008 10:18 PM UTC
By Debra's definition of Rev. 22, Matthew isn't scripture. LOL. *watching the house of cards crash down*
12/4/2008 10:17 PM UTC
Why use Scriptures to back up anything, if you are going to claim that there are other truths elsewhere that contradict Scriptures? fallacious argument- "Setting up a strawman". Please try again. LOL
12/4/2008 9:14 PM UTC
your certitude is borne of human pride...NOT of knowledge of the Bible. you are sorely lacking there.
12/4/2008 8:59 PM UTC
Your belief that the Bible is the final authority DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS what the Bible ITSELF says. 1 Timothy 3:15. It's JUST that simple!
12/4/2008 8:50 PM UTC
My beliefs are 110% supported by the Scriptures. Yours? eh...not so much. *L*
12/4/2008 8:48 PM UTC
There is NO scripture that backs up Sola scriptura...Zero...Zilch...NADA. The Infallible CHURCH is the final authority. Checkmate...I win. LOL
12/4/2008 8:47 PM UTC
That the best you can do? A quote from Revelation applying only to the book of Revelation? You do know that Matt was written 18 years later? LOL dismissed.
12/4/2008 6:55 PM UTC
As I said below, I was sleeping -- If you still feel the need to debate after you see that there has clearly been a checkmate here, I will be happy to do so. You do have my email address. ...Debra
12/4/2008 6:52 PM UTC
If in order to attempt to prove one's beliefs to be sound, one needs there to be more than that, which God has given to us in the Scriptures, then one admits that his beliefs are not truly and or fully supported in Scriptures. -- Checkmate
12/4/2008 6:47 PM UTC
"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple." Romans 16:17-18
Why use Scriptures to back up anything, if you are going to claim that there are other truths elsewhere that contradict Scriptures?
12/4/2008 6:46 PM UTC
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Revelation 22:18-19
I was sleeping... If we cannot trust that God's Word is Complete and that man is not to add anything to it, then what can we trust in?
12/4/2008 6:42 PM UTC
"Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men..." Mark 7:7-8
12/4/2008 6:41 PM UTC
"Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?" Matthew 15:3
"Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God." Matthew 22:29
"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ." Colossians 2:8
12/4/2008 6:39 PM UTC
12/4/2008 6:38 PM UTC
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:8
12/4/2008 6:37 PM UTC
"As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:9
12/4/2008 4:39 PM UTC
looks like Debra folded and the Catholic wins...again. but, just in case you find the quote, just leave a comment on my blog. You won't...there isn't. Sola Scriptura is a protestant invention.
12/4/2008 4:22 PM UTC
waiting......
12/4/2008 3:47 PM UTC
hint; you'll never find even one
12/4/2008 3:46 PM UTC
of course it is. but i'll tell ya what. show me one (1) scripture that supports Sola Scriptura and I'll leave the RCC today. Chapter and Verse. Just 1.
12/4/2008 2:15 PM UTC
...the church is made up of all of the saints, the true born again believers in Christ. "The Roman Catholic Church" is not the church that is spoken of in Scripture.
12/4/2008 2:13 PM UTC
1 Timothy 3:15: But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. ---- "of" the truth ..."truth" - Jesus is the "truth". This Scripture says that the church is the pillar and the ground "of" the truth, not THE truth. Meaning Jesus is still the only truth. The church simply HAS that truth. And of course, the church is made up of the s
12/4/2008 2:05 PM UTC
If there is a moderator who is willing to moderate a healthy debate on Catholicism and in a good manner, I will be happy to be part of the debate. Perhaps we can get someone else to debate against me; it appears that the Catholic on this post board is unable to. ...Debra
12/4/2008 11:56 AM UTC
Incidently, Deborah, your Bible says that the CHURCH is the Pillar and Foundation of all truth 1 Timothy 3:15. Checkmate.
12/4/2008 11:53 AM UTC
There apparently will be no debate since your friend missed the deadline for responding. It was a genorous time frame as well. Anti-Catholics cannot defend their positions. Of course, I always knew this. *yawn*
12/4/2008 4:00 AM UTC
For the record, I would really like to be part of the debate on Catholicism. As long as it is with a good moderator. Also, I am running a serious of BTR segments on Sunday nights, titled "Catholicism V.S. God's Bible."
12/4/2008 3:55 AM UTC
Actually, I backed up everything I said. I suppose it is easy to claim my posts are silly and unsupported; such only requires a keyboard and an ability to type. ...Debra of www.InformingChristians.com
12/3/2008 12:00 PM UTC
Debra, All of your assertions are silly and unsupported by Scripture. Pay attention to the upcoming debates....you just may learn something.
12/2/2008 10:16 PM UTC
Those of us who are true believers on the One who died for us, will be the ones who endure till the end. He who keeps us will not slumber. He who keeps us is more than able. There remains no more condemnation for those of us who are in Him. We have "eternal" life. He who is in me is stronger than he who is in this world. I am convinced that nothing can separate us from His love. ...Debra
12/2/2008 10:07 PM UTC
Scripturally, the church is made up of born again believers, those who believe on the One who died for us and believe on Him alone, not a church or anyone or anything else for salvation. The Catholic church is not "the church", it is the Catholic church. There are some who call themselves "Catholic" who are born again, but still call themselves, "Catholic", but the Catholic church itself is not "the" church.
12/2/2008 10:05 PM UTC
Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. --- When read in context this scripture is showing the One who died for us talking to Peter about the "truth" of who He is, that on that "truth" (The Rock, The One who died for us; the way, the "truth" and the light"), He would build his church. -- The church is built on the One who died for us, the Rock.
12/2/2008 9:46 PM UTC
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, ----- This scripture is speaking of the continuing of the practice of "'offering' up of sacrifices" in that there remains no more of such, that the One who died for us was the final sacrifice. -- Why would someone offer something that remains no more?
12/2/2008 9:26 PM UTC
1 John 5 - 9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
12/2/2008 9:18 PM UTC
1 John 5 is speaking of those of us who are born from above, as oppose to those who are reject the truth. It is also saying that we are to keep ourselves from idols. The sin unto death is a person who worships an idol instead of the One who died for us. The RCC is a form of an idol. Verse 18 tells us that a true believer could not do such, so we can pray for him if he sins. (His sin is not unto death.)
12/2/2008 9:01 PM UTC
"The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever." Psalm 12:6-7
12/2/2008 9:00 PM UTC
The old testament scriptures were completed before Jesus was born. The new testament scriptures were completed around the end of the first century. We know this because those who wrote them would not have lived much longer than that. Psalm 12: 6-7 tells us that there would be no generation that scripture would not have been preserved for. Hence there would not have been generations without the Word of God, waiting for the Catholic church to be formed in the late 4th century.
12/2/2008 8:53 PM UTC
Though left out of the current Catholic Catechism, it is known that Limbo is part of the Roman Catholic theology. Here are three places that back my post up: http://www.romancatholicism.org/jansenism/popes-limbo.htm ...and http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Limbo ...and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbo
12/2/2008 8:49 PM UTC
When a person is faced with facts and proof to support those facts and the person denies those facts, that person is not wishing to face the truth and is wishing to live in denial. ...Debra www.InformingChristians.com
12/2/2008 6:26 PM UTC
Maybe if you engaged in actual dialogue without coming off as a pompous hypocrite? hmmm. Yea...then I'll can the drama. deal?
12/2/2008 6:24 PM UTC
Debate without the drama? Hmmm. Let's see..my church is a whore, we burn Bibles, Our priests are all drunks, we worship Mary and we send babies to hell. I'll have to give that som thought. *rolling my eyes*
12/2/2008 6:22 PM UTC
Seriously, I have to go to work. I need to figure out how food is going to come in my house. But I am sure God will provide. It's been fun. But I do want to ask you if we are capable of debate without the drama? You know blessed are the peace makers nd such? let's really try to pursue the truth.
12/2/2008 6:17 PM UTC
It's all in fun, dontcha know....but I'm thinking Pastor Matt is a bit more humble now. *wink* Ok, I get it now. You are acting like an arrogant rear-end to show me how bad it is to be proud and how if I don't stop I will be like you! Well, God bless you!! Lord, I come to you now and ask that you would not lead me to the temptation of arrogance. And of all my pride I repent. Lord I can not come to you with any merit, lord I am a sinner. Have mercy on me. A sinner.
12/2/2008 6:13 PM UTC
We should do our first hour debate on "The Bible alone". This would consist of me destroying this unscriptural invention in 5 min and you licking your wounds for 55. up for it? So let me guess you are going to debate the neccessity of the Sola scriptura and destroy the catholic doctrine in 5 min! Hey buddy! I give in already, you are right! We should not add to he scriptures, nor take away from them! I am glad you cleared up that!
12/2/2008 6:09 PM UTC
"Venial sins (non-mortal) are our everyday vices and imperfections (I got a million of 'em) Mortal sin (deadly- as in SECOND death) are the sins that damn us to hell, lest we repent them. Your Salvation by faith alone house of cards is starti " So could you be specific as to what mortal sins are the sins which your catholic Jesus is incapable of saving you from? And which sins you are so righteous you can save yourself from make yourself a better savior than your false catholic jesus?
12/2/2008 5:55 PM UTC
It's all in fun, dontcha know....but I'm thinking Pastor Matt is a bit more humble now. *wink*
12/2/2008 5:53 PM UTC
We should do our first hour debate on "The Bible alone". This would consist of me destroying this unscriptural invention in 5 min and you licking your wounds for 55. up for it?
12/2/2008 5:46 PM UTC
this is too easy, really. get me another challenger...
12/2/2008 5:45 PM UTC
Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:21:17 PM It sounds like venial(?) sin is referring to the sin nature but mortal sin is someting that Christ doen't care to save us from. clear up what your saying because this does not add up. ------------------------- Venial sins (non-mortal) are our everyday vices and imperfections (I got a million of 'em) Mortal sin (deadly- as in SECOND death) are the sins that damn us to hell, lest we repent them. Your Salvation by faith alone house of cards is starti
12/2/2008 5:40 PM UTC
now.... mortal sin, non-mortal sin. Kinda blows your fundie theology away, don't it? *tapping fingers, waiting for answer*
12/2/2008 5:39 PM UTC
and we will do this ONE issue at a time...not 10. It's called a conversation. You don't get to just stay on offense and avoid defending your heretical, un-Biblical fundie views *g*
12/2/2008 5:37 PM UTC
Well...finally...I only had to post to you about a hundred times to get an answer. Mortal sin, sin that is not mortal. You denied that on your show, remember??? The verses very clearly define 2 kinds of sin; 1: Sin that is vice only. 2: Sin that is deadly. Don't run now.
12/2/2008 5:22 PM UTC
newt I'm for the party were's my dance partner? The fundy is trying to find the catholic! plus you couldals answer some of the other questions!
12/2/2008 5:21 PM UTC
It sounds like venial(?) sin is referring to the sin nature but mortal sin is someting that Christ doen't care to save us from. clear up what your saying because this does not add up.
12/2/2008 5:17 PM UTC
btw I take the verse literally when it discussies "sin unto death" as in death.
12/2/2008 5:15 PM UTC
I mortal sin in your mind the sin that you should not pray for people over?
12/2/2008 5:14 PM UTC
are you talkling about verse 16?
12/2/2008 5:13 PM UTC
newt you just muttered 1john you did not even mention what chapter. but let's look...
12/2/2008 5:11 PM UTC
watch the little fundieprod dance *g*
12/2/2008 5:10 PM UTC
Hey Smack. Do you have an answer on 1 John 5. Yes or no? YES or NO? We are not going to play your little fundieprod game of bob and weave. Answer 1 issue before spraying 10 more. Give me your answer or admit you can't.
12/2/2008 4:55 PM UTC
You know "newt" you really fit that description of opening the mouth to prove your own foolishness. The Bible is not the word of Roman Catholicism, it is the word of God!! If it was your peoples book then why have they historically felt the need to burn it hundreds of thousands of times over te centuries continueing well int the 20th century. There are even records o Roman Catholics burning catholic translations! The thing about the Bible is not how catholics made it, but how the
12/2/2008 4:50 PM UTC
Hey a newt one tell everybody what you believe about original sin!
12/2/2008 4:49 PM UTC
you need to e-mail it on my web log. www.biblesmack.blogspot.com got to the article which you have goto 2007 scroo down to the article i was written in sept. or you could e-mail it to me mslv4gd@yahoo.com
12/2/2008 2:05 PM UTC
Still no response to 1 John 5, either here or on your blog. Now, I just don't understand Why anti-Catholics are so afraid of debate.
12/2/2008 10:38 AM UTC
Debra, you can claim until the end of time, that "limbo" is a defined Catholic doctrine and you wont be any more right. But, by all means, waste your time slaying windmills...
12/2/2008 10:19 AM UTC
Limbo: http://www.romancatholicism.org/jansenism/popes-limbo.htm ...and http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Limbo ...and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbo
You are not logged in. Please log in to write a comment.