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do you wonder how or want to live like our ancestors did , being able to rely on your self and the basics , and not on a failing system , you may not want to be a total off gridder and just want so around the home ideas , we cover it all from total extreme self sufficient life to helpful at home tips for cutting costs and great projects , phones and chat will be open for all your comments questions and concerns , your hosts Diana and Quintin look forward to chatting with you
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