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Colloquia with Mark the Sorcerer

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Mark has proven himself to be a liar, and once again Teus night program.  Conundrums he presented answered.  Moses saw God with his "spiritual eyes" lest he be consumed. So did I and Joseph Smith:  11  But now mine own eyes have beheld God; but not my natural, but my spiritual eyes, for my natural eyes could not have beheld; for I should have withered and died in his presence; but his glory was upon me; and I beheld his face, for I was transfigured before him.  (Pearl of Great Price | Moses 1:11)Transfiguration is necessary to behold the things of God.Elder Charles W. Penrose., Conference Report, October 1911, Second DayMorning Session., p.49
There is some little difference of opinion in regard to that great manifestation, on which I would like to say a word or two this afternoon. The Prophet Joseph Smith gives a brief account of that visitation, which is to be found in the book called the Pearl of Great Price. We can there learn the main particulars in regard to that manifestation from on high, and it is well for us to read the Prophet's own words, so that we may know and understand how he considered it. Now, he called that manifestation given to him a "vision." Some of our brethren argue that it was not a vision, but that it was a reality. Well, is not a vision of that kind a reality?....explains it in this way: That he beheld the Lord and saw the glory that was round about Him, but he said "Not with my natural but with my spiritual eyes, for my natural eyes could not have beheld." Joseph, like Moses, saw in "vision," or with his "spiritual eyes." no mancould behold the fulness of His glory and remain in the flesh.