Our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy have changed. We think you'll like them better this way.

Disputations, Disputations

  • Broadcast in Religion
Art Bulla

Art Bulla


Follow This Show

If you liked this show, you should follow Art Bulla.

False witness Mark Lichten... called in with false claim after I had detected him for contradicting the order of heaven by his claim that the Father had conferred the keys upon him!  The principle contradicted is this: 

"...no true angel from God will ever come to ordain any man, because they have once been sent to establish the priesthood by ordaining me thereunto; and the priesthood being once established on earth, with power to ordain others, no heavenly messenger will ever come to interfere with that power by ordaining any more. ...You may therefore know, from this time forward, that if any man comes to you professing to be ordained by an angel, he is either a liar or has been imposed upon in consequence of transgression by an angel of the devil, for this priesthood shall never be taken away from this church (kingdom)." Joseph Smith;

Millennial Star 8 [November 20, 1846]: 139

His call carried the new lie:  that he had been ordained by "Christianson" fellow, whereupon I immediately said, "Who the hell is ____Christianson?"  Crickets.  But this, you see, contradicts his own email sent to me on June 27:  "...because you desired to be the second witness and take the glory and honor unto yourself. Joshua is a true witness of the savior and has also been caught up in vision and saw The Father lay his hands upon my head and conifer the keys of the building of the kingdom of God upon my head. Joshua is the Second witness in Rev chapter 11. " I don't think Joseph even had such craziness to contend with!  It is dupes like this who "cause evil of the way to be spoken of" and it gives the Devil great advantage to have so many fools to operate off of.