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And I heard another voice from heaven saying: COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE, THAT YE BE NOT PARTAKERS OF HER SIN, AND THAT YE RECEIVE NOT OF HER PLAGUES. Rev. 18:4
Date / Time: 6/18/2009 12:13 AM UTC
Kevin...wrote/ ask Quote: " Regarding ET's ... what is your opinion as to the "implants" that so many claim to have. A recent interview .. with an "alleged expert" revealed that they are to be used to identify those, and "virus-proof" those identified against a "coming pandemic" that is supposedly to be released by the "reptilians. " I find this interesting ... especially due to the rumor that our various governments are "full" of reptilians. Hence, the rumor would not be that hard to disbelieve .. if same is indeed true. Take the "H1N1 flu cocktail" as a perfect example. I had posted the interview but failed to receive a single comment on same. I thought that "the theory" was very interesting indeed. Kev ...". <response>: As with all things that I have encountered. ..I have always "sought" scripture (Old Testament/New Testament). In which to validate my experience's. .while other books may have an insight on such experience's It is The Bible, in which I believe/understand to be The "Pillar" of YHWH (God) in which "all" knowledge flows.And by that standard alone all other things True or not..must pass the test... nevertheless it is either there or alludes to the possibility of it. As Solomon wrote in Proverbs:
Quote:
" Regarding ET's ... what is your opinion as to the "implants" that so many claim to have. A recent interview .. with an "alleged expert" revealed that they are to be used to identify those, and "virus-proof" those identified against a "coming pandemic" that is supposedly to be released by the "reptilians. " I find this interesting ... especially due to the rumor that our various governments are "full" of reptilians. Hence, the rumor would not be that hard to disbelieve .. if same is indeed true. Take the "H1N1 flu cocktail" as a perfect example. I had posted the interview but failed to receive a single comment on same. I thought that "the theory" was very interesting indeed. Kev ...".
<response>: As with all things that I have encountered. ..I have always "sought" scripture (Old Testament/New Testament).
In which to validate my experience's. .while other books may have an insight on such experience's It is The Bible, in which I believe/understand to be The "Pillar" of YHWH (God) in which "all" knowledge flows.And by that standard alone all other things True or not..must pass the test... nevertheless it is either there or alludes to the possibility of it.
As Solomon wrote in Proverbs:
Pro 25:2
It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings is to search out a matter. Also in Jeremiah,
Also in Jeremiah,
Jer 33:3
Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not. Lets first look at "mans" definition of Implant: Webster defines Implant as; verb. 1. to put or fix firmly: to implant sound principles in a child's mind 2. to plant securely 3. Medicine/Medical. to insert or graft ( a tissue, organ, or inert substance) into the body. -noun Medicine/Medical. a. any device or material, esp. of an inert substance, used for repairing or replacing part of the body. b. medication or radioactive material inserted into tissue for sustained therapy. c. Implantation (def. 1 ). Dentistry. a. an artificial tooth that has been inserted permanently into the jaw. b. a metal framework attached to the bones of the jaw for supporting artificial teeth. Now let's look at the "biblical" definition of "implant". We cannot...because the word "implant" is not found in the bible( at least not the KJV). So therefore we must search the scriptures for something "similar" if it exist and can be found. In order to do that...It is best to understand what circumstances are present we are trying to compare to in order to Identify...it' s "similarities" . The word "Mark"according to strongs concordance;
Lets first look at "mans" definition of Implant:
Webster defines Implant as;
verb.
1. to put or fix firmly: to implant sound principles in a child's mind
2. to plant securely
3. Medicine/Medical. to insert or graft ( a tissue, organ, or inert substance) into the body.
-noun
Medicine/Medical.
a. any device or material, esp. of an inert substance, used for repairing or replacing part of the body.
b. medication or radioactive material inserted into tissue for sustained therapy.
c. Implantation (def. 1 ).
Dentistry.
a. an artificial tooth that has been inserted permanently into the jaw.
b. a metal framework attached to the bones of the jaw for supporting artificial teeth.
Now let's look at the "biblical" definition of "implant".
We cannot...because the word "implant" is not found in the bible( at least not the KJV).
So therefore we must search the scriptures for something "similar" if it exist and can be found.
In order to do that...It is best to understand what circumstances are present we are trying to compare to in order to
Identify...it' s "similarities" .
The word "Mark"according to strongs concordance;
תּו
tâv
tawv
From
H8427; a mark; by implication a signature: - desire, mark.
The word "Seal" according to strongs concordance;
σφραγίζω
sphragizō
sfrag-id'-zo
G4973; to stamp (with a signet or private mark) for security or preservation (literally or figuratively); by implication to keep secret, to attest: - (set a, set to) seal up, stop. Here are our circumstances: People all over the world are reporting to have been "implanted" by a "device" placed in various parts of the body by aliens,entities, light beings....etc. .etc.. And that these "implants" perform various functions such as identifying and tracking individuals, to mind control and/or alteration. And even making them immune to certain viruses or disease. A person who is an "evolutionist" which I believe that most ( I say most not "all" because I do not adhere to most of their conclusions) of the Ufology movement believe in evolution to some degree or another.( I don't think you can be part evolutionist any more than you can be half a believer in God) They readily accept as a definite possibility or even fact. A person however that is a believer in YHWH and His Messiah Yashuah Ha Mashiach is a "child of God" a "truth-seeker" one who knows that YHWH is sovereign. Therefore for them that is their standard with which must accompany an element of faith because all things are not "cut and dry" sort of speak but all that is Truth will be in harmony with YHWH's revealed Word to us. Given the two examples above...I believe it to be a two part question... 1. Does YHWH need to have an "implant" to know and protect those that are His because without it He couldn't...? 2. If not then what are they and why are they needed... if they do indeed exist? The answer to the first of course is an easy one...NO. YHWH is "all powerful, all knowing, and all present". And nothing is impossible for Him. The second question however, entails a comparison of similarities. ..of which I find two.(I'm sure there are more but I believe these two will be sufficient for now). The first is in Ezekial:
Here are our circumstances:
People all over the world are reporting to have been "implanted" by a "device" placed in various parts of the body by aliens,entities, light beings....etc. .etc..
And that these "implants" perform various functions such as identifying and tracking individuals, to mind control and/or alteration. And even making them immune
to certain viruses or disease.
A person who is an "evolutionist" which I believe that most ( I say most not "all" because I do not adhere to most of their conclusions) of the Ufology movement believe in evolution to some degree or another.( I don't think you can be part evolutionist any more than you can be half a believer in God) They readily accept as a definite possibility or even fact.
A person however that is a believer in YHWH and His Messiah Yashuah Ha Mashiach is a "child of God" a "truth-seeker" one who knows that YHWH is sovereign.
Therefore for them that is their standard with which must accompany an element of faith because all things are not "cut and dry" sort of speak but all that is Truth will be in harmony with YHWH's revealed Word to us.
Given the two examples above...I believe it to be a two part question...
1. Does YHWH need to have an "implant" to know and protect those that are His because without it He couldn't...?
2. If not then what are they and why are they needed... if they do indeed exist?
The answer to the first of course is an easy one...NO. YHWH is "all powerful, all knowing, and all present". And nothing is impossible for Him.
The second question however, entails a comparison of similarities. ..of which I find two.(I'm sure there are more but I believe these two will be sufficient for now).
The first is in Ezekial:
Eze 9:1
He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand.
Eze 9:2
And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brazen altar.
Eze 9:3
And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side;
Eze 9:4
And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
Eze 9:5
And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
Eze 9:6
Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.
Eze 9:7
And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.
Eze 9:8
And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?
Eze 9:9
Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not.
Eze 9:10
And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.
Eze 9:11
And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me. And the second is in Revelations:
And the second is in Revelations:
Rev 7:1
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
Rev 7:2
And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Rev 7:3
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Rev 7:4
And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Rev 7:5
Of the tribe of Judah were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:6
Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Naphtali were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:7
Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
Rev 7:8
Of the tribe of Zebulun were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand. The words "mark" and "seal" out of all the places in the bible where they are used there are only three that have the "similar" meanings as two are in Hebrew and the other in Greek the third being Job 31:35 (the same word is translated "desire" instead of "mark" why I am not sure as of yet). I must also recognize the fact that YHWH is sovereign so these two places mentioned doesn't mean YHWH hasn't at other times and places marked/sealed individuals throughout history that have not been recorded for man to know anymore than many other things He has done in the past/present or future and has elected not to make us aware of. These two incidences mentioned above can be addressed together however as the "possible" and probable answers should Ufo's, aliens, light beings, etc..etc...are a reality. To me it would further prove not disprove that YHWH is indeed the Creator of "all" things seen and unseen. Here Therefore is my reasoning concerning the matter. YHWH indeed created all things including life and the possibility of life elsewhere because of His Sovereignty. I wont' put him in a box as others seem to and don't think twice about it and use His Word to back it up. The simple fact is YHWH does not plainly come out and say.."There is no other life anywhere but on earth". So with out plainly stating such ....others will... like many many other things speculate for Him to mean it.(This is dangerous ground to say the least). With that being said....everything else created by Him are NOT infallible.. .that means angels,mankind, creatures, etc. And it is through them He chooses to do His will and carry out His Wishes, enforce His commandments, bless, and curse. As a good example of the fall of Sodom and Gomorrah. In this case He had His angels literally take Lot and those with them by the hand to lead them out. No Mark...No Seal... that I'm aware of ..and because more than likely since He was going to utterly destroy the city...saw no reason to do otherwise. Another example would be the "plagues" of Egypt and the "destroying" Angel was to pass over the blood upon the door post. (something the individual had to do themselves if they believed in YHWH.. to obey or not to obey). When the "destroyer" past through...He didn't have it in His mind through the spirit of which house to destroy or which house to pass over instead He "looked" for the "blood" (which was literal "real") upon the doorpost. Whether or not YHWH needed that or not is not the question but it is the means He chose to instruct the "destroyer" of which to discern from. In Ezekial..He chose a different method. and that was a mark. and for what? Not for Himself but for those who were to carry out there mission which was the Wrath of the Almighty. He did not destroy the city...but many of the inhabitants and of those it was the ones who did NOT have the mark.Couldn' t He have just placed it in their "minds" which ones He wanted destroyed and which ones He wanted to live...I believe yes of course...but He is YHWH..He is sovereign as in Isaiah ..He says..
The words "mark" and "seal" out of all the places in the bible where they are used there are only three that have the "similar" meanings as two are in Hebrew and the other in Greek the third being Job 31:35 (the same word is translated "desire" instead of "mark" why I am not sure as of yet).
I must also recognize the fact that YHWH is sovereign so these two places mentioned doesn't mean YHWH hasn't at other times and places marked/sealed individuals throughout history that have not been recorded for man to know anymore than many other things He has done in the past/present or future and has elected not to make us aware of.
These two incidences mentioned above can be addressed together however as the "possible" and probable answers should Ufo's, aliens, light beings, etc..etc...are a reality.
To me it would further prove not disprove that YHWH is indeed the Creator of "all" things seen and unseen.
Here Therefore is my reasoning concerning the matter.
YHWH indeed created all things including life and the possibility of life elsewhere because of His Sovereignty. I wont' put him in a box as others seem to and don't think twice about it and use His Word to back it up. The simple fact is YHWH does not plainly come out and say.."There is no other life anywhere but on earth". So with out plainly stating such ....others will... like many many other things speculate for Him to mean it.(This is dangerous ground to say the least).
With that being said....everything else created by Him are NOT infallible.. .that means angels,mankind, creatures, etc.
And it is through them He chooses to do His will and carry out His Wishes, enforce His commandments, bless, and curse. As a good example of the fall of Sodom and Gomorrah.
In this case He had His angels literally take Lot and those with them by the hand to lead them out. No Mark...No Seal... that I'm aware of ..and because more than likely since He was going to utterly destroy the city...saw no reason to do otherwise.
Another example would be the "plagues" of Egypt and the "destroying" Angel was to pass over the blood upon the door post. (something the individual had to do themselves if they believed in YHWH.. to obey or not to obey). When the "destroyer" past through...He didn't have it in His mind through the spirit of which house to destroy or which house to pass over instead He "looked" for the "blood" (which was literal "real") upon the doorpost. Whether or not YHWH needed that or not is not the question but it is the means He chose to instruct the "destroyer" of which to discern from.
In Ezekial..He chose a different method. and that was a mark. and for what? Not for Himself but for those who were to carry out there mission which was the Wrath of the Almighty. He did not destroy the city...but many of the inhabitants and of those it was the ones who did NOT have the mark.Couldn' t He have just placed it in their "minds" which ones He wanted destroyed and which ones He wanted to live...I believe yes of course...but He is YHWH..He is sovereign as in Isaiah ..He says..
Isa 40:13
Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counselor hath taught him?
Isa 40:14
With whom took he counsel, and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of judgment, and taught him knowledge, and showed to him the way of understanding? Then in the example of the Angel in revelations who was given the "seal" of God. He had a task and he wasn't alone in that task as he stated "till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads." YHWH once again did not choose to "take" them out of the Wrath He was going to have poured upon the earth instead He "chose" to protect and keep them from the devastating affects of His Wrath..be it whatever a earthquake a plague or ??? And each one had to have the "seal". Could not YHWH have just thought the thought and it would have been done? Again yes...but He once again chooses His methods. In another place He shuts the mouths of lions for Daniel...and yet in another He walks with the three Hebrew children in the "fiery" furnace. So as you can see.. YHWH is sovereign and needs no instructions from us nor our understanding to why and what or how...only to believe that He is YHWH not how He is YHWH. In time He may choose to tell us all of it...until then.. All things are "possible" to Him and them that believe in Him. In conclusion: I personally believe that there are for a better lack of understanding and vocabulary "IMPLANTS" and they are definitely not only possible but real. YHWH's reasoning?.. .we will know in the end...Whether it be a mark, seal, sign or signature or whatever... it will be to protect us from the "others",and plagues, calamities, or destruction. However it won't be because He isn't powerful enough or have the lack of knowledge to preserve and protect us but rather it will be for those who will be carrying out His will rather it be angels or men. And His "methods" will be just that "His" methods and His choice. As far as an "alien" agenda...there reasoning could be many and numerous...as they are from my understanding of His revealed word "familiar" spirits fallen angels...different kinds of creatures of intelligence that copy and corrupt a lot of things of YHWH... whatever their imagination could be...whether for tracking/mind alteration/ experimentation/ or to simply identify who and what they have done to different individuals. ..because they are not infallible themselves because they are the created not the Creator and obviously into "mischief". YHWH punished them before and He will do so again...as it is Written....Shalom. .."talmidinthree "
Then in the example of the Angel in revelations who was given the "seal" of God. He had a task and he wasn't alone in that task as he stated "till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads." YHWH once again did not choose to "take" them out of the Wrath He was going to have poured upon the earth instead He "chose" to protect and keep them from the devastating affects of His Wrath..be it whatever a earthquake a plague or ??? And each one had to have the "seal". Could not YHWH have just thought the thought and it would have been done? Again yes...but He once again chooses His methods.
In another place He shuts the mouths of lions for Daniel...and yet in another He walks with the three Hebrew children in the "fiery" furnace. So as you can see.. YHWH is sovereign and needs no instructions from us nor our understanding to why and what or how...only to believe that He is YHWH not how He is YHWH. In time He may
choose to tell us all of it...until then.. All things are "possible" to Him and them that believe in Him.
In conclusion:
I personally believe that there are for a better lack of understanding and vocabulary "IMPLANTS" and they are definitely not only possible but real.
YHWH's reasoning?.. .we will know in the end...Whether it be a mark, seal, sign or signature or whatever... it will be to protect us from the "others",and plagues, calamities, or destruction. However it won't be because He isn't powerful enough or have the lack of knowledge to preserve and protect us but rather it will be for those who will be carrying out His will rather it be angels or men. And His "methods" will be just that "His" methods and His choice.
As far as an "alien" agenda...there reasoning could be many and numerous...as they are from my understanding of His revealed word "familiar" spirits fallen angels...different kinds of creatures of intelligence that copy and corrupt a lot of things of YHWH... whatever their imagination could be...whether for tracking/mind alteration/ experimentation/ or to simply identify who and what they have done to different individuals. ..because they are not infallible themselves because they are the created not the Creator and obviously into "mischief". YHWH punished them before and He will do so again...as it is Written....Shalom. .."talmidinthree "
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